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Post by Lola m on Mar 5, 2008 13:45:52 GMT -5
So, here's something I've been wondering: If Daniel wasn't going to teach Eloise to run the maze for another hour, and during the 75 minutes Desmond was out of it Eloise died... then when exactly did Daniel teach her the maze? Did he manage to teach her how to run that whole thing perfectly in less than 15 minutes, or did he move his timetable up and go through it with her right away?  Heee! Speedy training, problem with the whole self-looping time thing, or just writing continuity error? |
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Post by Lola m on Mar 5, 2008 13:47:03 GMT -5
Oh! I finally placed Creepy Doctor. He was the doctor who gave Gunn the lawyer upgrade and what not on Angel. So, he's got a theme to his roles then, eh?  |
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 5, 2008 16:33:34 GMT -5
Oh! I finally placed Creepy Doctor. He was the doctor who gave Gunn the lawyer upgrade and what not on Angel. So, he's got a theme to his roles then, eh? I'm not sure if he's actually supposed to be a creepy doctor here. Like maybe we're supposed to get that vibe at the moment, because we're seeing things from a certain perspective but in reality he's just a decent guy. Of course, my initial reaction when I saw him was OMGCREEPYDOCTOR! just because I recognized him from his previous role, even if I didn't place what that role was right away. So that could be coloring things. |
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Post by Sara on Mar 6, 2008 9:28:46 GMT -5
EW's Jeff Jensen spoke to executive producer Damon Lindelof about "The Constant," and got some nice clarification on a few points:
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO DESMOND?
In ''The Constant,'' Desmond became ''unstuck in time'' after flying through a thundercloud crackling with strange electricity. He experienced something like time travel, though not bodily time travel; instead, his consciousness shuttled between two different time periods, Island present 2004 and Desmond's past 1996. But here's the tricky twist: Desmond's Island-present mind wasn't the one doing the time traveling. When Desmond got hit with Island magic, his consciousness got knocked off-line and was replaced by his 1996 self. It was this older Desmond consciousness that toggled between present and past throughout the episode. Once Desmond '96 completed the errand of getting Penny's phone number so he could call her on Christmas Eve 2004, Desmond's present-day mind came back online, but rebooted with the new memories created by his time-travel adventure. I know: tricky stuff. But I had the chance to run all this by Damon Lindelof — and he says this interpretation is correct.
THE MINKOWSKI EXCEPTION
Desmond had the time-warp blues, but freighter freak Minkowski had Marty McFly Mania: Due to his own exposure to electromagnetic magic, he began psychically commuting back to a pleasant day on a Ferris wheel. He died desperately trying to zip-line back to this happy day one more time. Coldly poignant, I thought. Notice: Unlike Desmond's time-travel story, Minkowski's present day consciousness was making the trip. Lindelof says this difference was designed to make a very important point: ''As Faraday explains in the episode, the effect is random. Sometimes a person can be displaced by minutes, other times, years. And the direction of the effect is equally unpredictable. Our way of demonstrating this was to give Minkowski a wildly different experience than Desmond was having.'' Lindelof says none of this is arbitrary; exposure to electromagnetism or radiation plays a role. But he adds: ''Looking for specific rules for how all this works will lead you down the path of insanity.''
PARADOX R/X, or ''HOW COURSE CORRECTION WORKS''
To be clear, Desmond's past was different before ''The Constant.'' Before his time-travel adventure, Desmond never met Faraday at Oxford, never got Penelope's digits. As a consequence of changing the past, Desmond's personal history has been ''course corrected'' by The Powers That Be, beginning from the moment he walked away from Penny's apartment. Lindelof says this interpretation is also correct. But here's a Big Question: since scoring Penelope's phone number, has Course-Corrected Desmond lived his life knowing that on Christmas Eve 2004, he MUST be on a freighter in the South Pacific in order to make a call to Penelope if he wants any chance of having a future with her? Lindelof says this is indeed a matter we should be mulling. Perhaps in the future, Lost will give us an episode that replays Desmond's backstory (getting the boat from Libby; killing Kelvin; meeting the castaways) from the point of view of this knowingness.
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Post by Onjel on Mar 6, 2008 11:14:24 GMT -5
FYI, Sara: My brain just exploded. Thank you. ;D |
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 9, 2008 16:29:05 GMT -5
Also from the same article Sara cited, about the "sickness" that killed Rousseau's crew and so forth.
MINKOWSKI GOT ''THE SICKNESS''
I tip my hat to Lost blogger Vozzek69 (at darkufo.blogspot.com) and some of my own readers for catching this one: It seems most likely that the time-travel illness that killed Minkowski is the same mythical ''sickness'' that killed The French Lady's fellow scientists wayyy back in the day. I really love this idea. I was never fond of the idea that ''the sickness'' was a Dharma hoax. It just didn't feel right. But this — this feels right. And if it is right, I love it even more for the way this answer was basically left for us to puzzle out, as opposed to having some dude explain it all to us. I expect that in the coming episodes and seasons, more Lost mysteries will be resolved this way.
This seems plausible to me. And now I'm wondering whether the time warp barrier is over the island as well. Because that means that the plane had to fall through it too.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 9, 2008 21:04:04 GMT -5
FYI, Sara: My brain just exploded. Thank you. ;D **nods** But the "brain reboot" thing and the idea that the time jumps can be totally random in how they happen does make sense for the episode. Thanks, Sara! |
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Post by Lola m on Mar 9, 2008 21:05:31 GMT -5
Also from the same article Sara cited, about the "sickness" that killed Rousseau's crew and so forth. MINKOWSKI GOT ''THE SICKNESS'' I tip my hat to Lost blogger Vozzek69 (at darkufo.blogspot.com) and some of my own readers for catching this one: It seems most likely that the time-travel illness that killed Minkowski is the same mythical ''sickness'' that killed The French Lady's fellow scientists wayyy back in the day. I really love this idea. I was never fond of the idea that ''the sickness'' was a Dharma hoax. It just didn't feel right. But this — this feels right. And if it is right, I love it even more for the way this answer was basically left for us to puzzle out, as opposed to having some dude explain it all to us. I expect that in the coming episodes and seasons, more Lost mysteries will be resolved this way. This seems plausible to me. And now I'm wondering whether the time warp barrier is over the island as well. Because that means that the plane had to fall through it too. I do really like the idea that the sickness is this time jumping thing. Nice link to season 1 and so on. |
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