|
|
Post by Queen E on Apr 26, 2008 13:19:04 GMT -5
Thoughts?
|
|
|
|
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 27, 2008 14:18:41 GMT -5
Rattigan Academy
A juvie school?
Amos
Is this episode going to be about the horrors of GPS?
Like the ones about the horror of Bluetooth phones?
UNIT!
Martha!
I guess Martha left her cell phone behind?
Credits.
Martha got engaged.
To the doctor she fancied
Good for her.
Doctor's not going to be too pleased with the new face of UNIT.
Is that what you do to them? Turn them into soldiers?
The Valiant.
Homeworld Security.
Donna insists upon a salute.
hee.
800 millions cars on the Earth.
Atmospheric admissions system.
Oh, so it's about the horror of green cars then.
Ooh, green goo.
Is it kryptonite laced?
Oh, alien bath.
Umbilical cord coming out of its neck
The Doctor and guns.
The doctor has the luxury of coming and going.
Affects his view of how to fight evil.
About Companions' families and effects of traveling with the Doctor.
Donna changes her mind about traveling with the Doctor.
And the Doctor... tries to lure her back in? That's kind of creepy.
Talking with Grandpa about the Doctor.
Mr. Conditional Clause.
Hee!
This kid is messed up.
And has a weird accent.
Sontarans weren't allowed to be part of the Time War.
Oh, they cloned Martha.
Ew.
Just a few sparks the GPS instead of a car explosion.
Hee!
So the Doctor goes to Donna for help.
Oh, Grandpa was the guy in the Christmas special.
Hee! I love Donna's families opinions of the Doctor.
And then they start war chanting.
|
|
|
|
Post by Queen E on Apr 28, 2008 4:08:59 GMT -5
Just a fun bit of trivia:
General Staal is played by Christopher Ryan, who was Mike in "The Young Ones."
Just thought I'd share. Now, what I wouldn't give to see Vivian, Ric, and Neil in some form on Doctor Who...
|
|
|
|
Post by Queen E on May 3, 2008 5:07:24 GMT -5
I have to say, I didn't have high hopes for this two-parter, given it was written by the same person who wrote the "Daleks in Manhatten/Evolution of the Daleks" ones last year, which was just...weird. But this was pretty tight, and actually quite funny. Calling the Doctor a "prawn" and the whole Joss-esque undercutting of the dramatics of Donna telling the Doctor she wants to go home and the boy genius who hates being correct, plus a cliffhanger that's actually pretty scary...
I liked it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Lola m on May 16, 2008 20:02:04 GMT -5
ATMOS? So, like a GPS kind of thingee? Only evil! Um. And I would suggest that you don't talk about how you want to dismantle the car control thingee while, you know, inside the car.  Woo hoo! Martha! Yeah, 'cuz of how she works for Unit. Funsies! |
|
|
|
Post by Lola m on May 16, 2008 20:18:02 GMT -5
Heeee! Martha and Donna talking about the Doctor and ignoring him right in front of them. ;D MmmmmmmsexytoughinchargeMartha. Tasty!  Although Donna is not perhaps so happy about this? Heeee! "Oh, don't salute."  "Donna Noble, since you didn't ask. I'll have a salute." Perfect!! So, not a GPS? It's gets ride of emissions? But what's with the voice telling the driver where to go and stuff? Creepy dark basement place where supposedly there is "nothing much"? Yeah. Like we believe that! That's always where the aliens are lurking, doing their "take over the world" thingee. So of course they only have two guys to go take a look see. "Is there someone in there?"  OMG, too adorable! Goo person. Cool! "Don't get too close" and "I don't think he's dangerous". Well. Which one is probably being more sensible? Oh goodie! I love when we get a chatty villian. |
|
|
|
Post by Lola m on May 16, 2008 20:35:05 GMT -5
You get to come and go, some of us have to stay. (Well, she's got a point.) Work from the inside to make things better. No sick days. And yeah, not just that no one was sick, but no one's even just taken a day off? Hmmmmmm. Heeee! Lonely in a house full of geniuses. Martha warning Donna about the firey Doctor. Hmmmm. So, the Sontarans can take over humans? Interesting comment about how the Doctor has weapons, but only uses if he has to. And Martha's warning made Donna want to leave? No!! Oh, just a visit! Heeeeeeee! Well, I'm just as much a dumbo as the Doctor. ;D Robot-like, 24-hour a day working, metronome-heart-beat-having? Yeah. I think something is up with the workers. No!!!! Martha don't go with the Sontaran-altered guys! |
|
|
|
Post by Lola m on May 16, 2008 20:49:37 GMT -5
Back home looks dfferent when you've been bopping arouind the time-space continuum, eh, Donna?
Oh, that's so sweet, him waving from down the street. That was just too cute!
Martha knows a "run away" situation when she sees it, by gum!!
And Donna is doing kind of a mid-way between tell and don't tell thing. Tell grampa but not her mom.
Can I just say - orange running outfits? Not so very pretty.
Nicely done. Young genius sent from smug to annoyed in 15.4 seconds by the Doctor. ;D
Love the "teleport out, nip back, You're a Sontaran, I order you to surrender, that's not gonna work, not a very good nick name, he's like a potato, you're a large pink weasel to him, stare into this" sequence. Very smartly done. Action-y and funny, witty banter with plot advancement!
|
|
|
|
Post by Lola m on May 16, 2008 20:58:46 GMT -5
So, the genius kid is basically seeing all this as like a game or something? It's all "cool" and "wow" and like he doesn't really attach it to what that means for people? Kinda sociopathic, eh? And what is his reward for all this? Martha! Ah, clone race. Duh! So, different nicknames for copies. And they're copying Martha. Ah! What the kid wants it to leave Earth too. "Not big enough" for hm. They're cranky that they didn't get to take part in the Time War. Well, they would, wouldn't they?  They didn't take over the humans, they cloned them. And now they try to kill the Doctor using a car again. Gave it contradictory instructions and make the computer go goofy (shades of old-timey Star Trek). Heeee! Oh, is that all? No big boom. ;D |
|
|
|
Post by Lola m on May 16, 2008 21:05:22 GMT -5
Doctor and grampa met before. You never said! Well, you never said! And Martha!clone is on the job. Donna's the "little general". ;D Don't start! And the Sontaran general is all happy that the Doctor survived, of course, so he can have a better battle. Oh noes! Grampa is locked in! All the gas is being released! The Sontar chant. Lacks something, what is it . . . Oh, yea! Sanity!  |
|
|
|
Post by artemis on May 16, 2008 22:50:12 GMT -5
when the show made a point of martha specifying she didn't have a gun, i knew that was going to spell trouble for her down the road.
overall i liked this episode - nice pacing, with what i thought was a good mix of silly banter and action and emotional depth.
after all the things that have gone wrong with popular technology on the new series, maybe humans should start avoiding fad tech like they now, avoid london on christmas, though. ;D
lots of interesting little bits and ideas in this episode - from the idea of a species of warriors who can't turn their back on their enemy in battle to the image of donna's grandpa waving excitedly from down the street to the colonel calling the doctor hypocritical for preferring his weapons to be hidden to the guy who offhandedly justified his imminent extermination of the earth with, "it was never big enough for me" (i imagine there are other people who would feel similarly).
i wish that the conclusion weren't two weeks away for those of us watching on american tv. did they air on the same night in the uk like they seem to often do?
|
|
|
|
Post by artemis on May 16, 2008 22:58:22 GMT -5
i am probably reading way too much into this, but i thought this episode was also an interesting comment on how sometimes people expect to continue to live their same lives while having fewer consequences on the world around them (i.e., driving the same car as before with no more emissions, thinking that it really would be that easy - no strings attached, no ramifications).
|
|
|
|
Post by KMInfinity on May 17, 2008 12:59:19 GMT -5
I enjoyed this one too. I'm finally warming more to Donna, the process beginning with the Ood.
I'll need to see the two-parter, but I thought this episode highlighted a Doctor-dilemma seen before that may upset Donna: In order for the Doctor to "save the planet" he needs to sacrifice someone individual, namely her grandfather in this case. It's a philosophy that makes me queasy sometimes, despite the illogic of going after that one lost sheep at the expense of endangering the entire flock.
|
|
|
|
Post by Sue on May 17, 2008 13:21:33 GMT -5
I enjoyed this one too. I'm finally warming more to Donna, the process beginning with the Ood. I'll need to see the two-parter, but I thought this episode highlighted a Doctor-dilemma seen before that may upset Donna: In order for the Doctor to "save the planet" he needs to sacrifice someone individual, namely her grandfather in this case. It's a philosophy that makes me queasy sometimes, despite the illogic of going after that one lost sheep at the expense of endangering the entire flock. You don't think her grandfather will be saved at the last moment? And---what IS airing next Friday that's pre-empting both DW and BSG? |
|
|
|
Post by Queen E on May 17, 2008 13:38:17 GMT -5
when the show made a point of martha specifying she didn't have a gun, i knew that was going to spell trouble for her down the road. overall i liked this episode - nice pacing, with what i thought was a good mix of silly banter and action and emotional depth. after all the things that have gone wrong with popular technology on the new series, maybe humans should start avoiding fad tech like they now, avoid london on christmas, though. ;D lots of interesting little bits and ideas in this episode - from the idea of a species of warriors who can't turn their back on their enemy in battle to the image of donna's grandpa waving excitedly from down the street to the colonel calling the doctor hypocritical for preferring his weapons to be hidden to the guy who offhandedly justified his imminent extermination of the earth with, "it was never big enough for me" (i imagine there are other people who would feel similarly). i wish that the conclusion weren't two weeks away for those of us watching on american tv. did they air on the same night in the uk like they seem to often do? Not in this case; the second part of this episode aired the following Friday. It looks like next week you get treated to a double bill of the films Solar Attack and Scorcher. Lucky you. |
|
Although Donna is not perhaps so happy about this?
