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Post by Matthew on Nov 10, 2008 22:00:25 GMT -5
Nothing like your son returning home to interfere with your perfectly orchestrated killing attempt.
Oddly, I find Elle's retconning a lot easier to take. She does have that jaded feeling about her, as if hurt too badly.
And back to the cab moment in the second or third episode.
"I'd like a cremation as soon as possible" is a lot funnier if you know the backstory.
Ah. So the doctor was in on it.
Happy Science Fiction poison.
And here is where we see the Angela Petrelli Cranky Side.
You're a little late, Hiro.
JESUS! His HEAD FELL OFF!!!!!
ANDO! ANDO ANDO! SHOVEL!
Now we find out what this goddamned eclipse means.
Maybe.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 10, 2008 22:01:25 GMT -5
"I lied. It's not your mother's recipe" is awesome beyond awesome and hillarious in this context. mama p has the best one-liners. Balls of steel she has. Now I want her to take down daddyP once again, only do it permanent this time.
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Post by Matthew on Nov 10, 2008 22:01:33 GMT -5
Holy crapcakes!!!!! DaddyP has grabbed Hiro's power? Oh, hell no!! Didn't Artie get them ensuite with Peter's?
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Post by artemis on Nov 10, 2008 22:03:17 GMT -5
Ah. So the doctor was in on it. i thought the doctor was being mind-controlled by papa p. maybe not, though...
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Post by Lola m on Nov 10, 2008 22:04:26 GMT -5
geez, what does this show have against african & african-american characters?! Head be gone! That was so unfun, 'cuz I really liked that guy. He had the next best one-liners next to mommaP. At least Micah is still alive. So far.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 10, 2008 22:09:03 GMT -5
Nothing like your son returning home to interfere with your perfectly orchestrated killing attempt. Oddly, I find Elle's retconning a lot easier to take. She does have that jaded feeling about her, as if hurt too badly. And we'd seen moments of vulnerability and examples of how messed up she was before, so . . . I KNOW!!! AND WHY THE HELL DIDN'T HIRO JUST FREEZE THINGS BEFORE TURNING AROUND!? WHY, I BEG YOU, WHY!!!? Seems awful portentous, don't it?
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Post by Lola m on Nov 10, 2008 22:09:58 GMT -5
Holy crapcakes!!!!! DaddyP has grabbed Hiro's power? Oh, hell no!! Didn't Artie get them ensuite with Peter's? Hee! Ensuite. ;D Also? Excellent point! Maybe this was more about draining Hiro than getting his particular power goodie.
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Post by RAKSHA on Nov 10, 2008 22:25:29 GMT -5
Has the show addressed why and when the original Company formed, how Mom and Pop Petrelli hooked up with Lindermann and Hiro's dad (who did not appear to have a speshul power) and others, and when powers started manifesting in the general population, as well as why and how the Company folks started experimenting with giving powers to their own kids (Nathan and Peter, Hiro, Elle) as well as apparently other people's kids (Nikki/Jessica/whatsername the new girl)? I might have missed such info amidst all the time-travel and Sylar-retconning.
Doesn't Nathan have a couple of kids? Anyone checked out their DNA recently?
I think the retconning, or character work on Elle, is a lot more believable than what they've done with Sylar. There always was some vulnerability and fragility to her character, not to mention a lot of emotion and danger; whereas Sylar started out as a sociopath, killing people because he could and wanted to...
G.
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Post by Sara on Nov 11, 2008 10:40:12 GMT -5
Has the show addressed why and when the original Company formed, how Mom and Pop Petrelli hooked up with Lindermann and Hiro's dad (who did not appear to have a speshul power) and others, and when powers started manifesting in the general population, as well as why and how the Company folks started experimenting with giving powers to their own kids (Nathan and Peter, Hiro, Elle) as well as apparently other people's kids (Nikki/Jessica/whatsername the new girl)? I might have missed such info amidst all the time-travel and Sylar-retconning.
Doesn't Nathan have a couple of kids? Anyone checked out their DNA recently?
I think the retconning, or character work on Elle, is a lot more believable than what they've done with Sylar. There always was some vulnerability and fragility to her character, not to mention a lot of emotion and danger; whereas Sylar started out as a sociopath, killing people because he could and wanted to...
G.My brother and I were saying the same thing last night about the Sylar retconning. However, then I remembered something—the secret room Mohinder and Eden found in Sylar's apartment back in the first season and what was written on its walls: So, maybe the retconning isn't as out there as we thought?
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Post by Sara on Nov 11, 2008 10:48:19 GMT -5
While I enjoyed the way many of the events of last night's episode were tied into familiar scenes from the first season, I did end up with a couple of questions...
1. By the time Suresh was in NYC driving a cab Sylar had already killed his father, yet I don't recall seeing that murder among the flashes Sylar had as he prepared to hang himself. Did I miss said flashes? 'Cause if not, then something's kinda wonky there. 2. Why didn't the guy in Africa see his death coming? I mean, he saw every detail of Hiro and Ando's lame attempts to sneak up on him, yet he missed this rather important event in his future? Really?
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Post by Matthew on Nov 11, 2008 11:01:42 GMT -5
Has the show addressed why and when the original Company formed, how Mom and Pop Petrelli hooked up with Lindermann and Hiro's dad (who did not appear to have a speshul power) and others, and when powers started manifesting in the general population, as well as why and how the Company folks started experimenting with giving powers to their own kids (Nathan and Peter, Hiro, Elle) as well as apparently other people's kids (Nikki/Jessica/whatsername the new girl)? I might have missed such info amidst all the time-travel and Sylar-retconning.
Doesn't Nathan have a couple of kids? Anyone checked out their DNA recently?
I think the retconning, or character work on Elle, is a lot more believable than what they've done with Sylar. There always was some vulnerability and fragility to her character, not to mention a lot of emotion and danger; whereas Sylar started out as a sociopath, killing people because he could and wanted to...
G.My brother and I were saying the same thing last night about the Sylar retconning. However, then I remembered something—the secret room Mohinder and Eden found in Sylar's apartment back in the first season and what was written on its walls: <Snip> So, maybe the retconning isn't as out there as we thought? Well, frell. I apologize, show. The inner torment about what he was doing has clearly been here all along. That's guilt, clear enough. Crap. Now I've gotta reverse the irritation I've been spouting for a couple of months now.
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Post by Sara on Nov 11, 2008 12:16:56 GMT -5
And we're back to the frame story I think Meredith is resigning her commission. HAH! "God gave you a big sister instead of a brain"Yeah, Flint ain't that braight. Holy crap, he was actually serious about making that ox an agent? So what is Linderman rabbiting on about? "leaves scars. Soon you will own a small dog named Mr. Muggles and be very spacy all the time" So he fixes her brain. And hah! So Merdith is responsible for the fire Claire decides do dare death with. And Whosiswhasis recognizes Claire and it seems, has a conscience or something twisted akin to it. Claire! Greg has already been alerted to the fact that I intend to use that line at the first opportunity.
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Post by Karen on Nov 11, 2008 15:36:09 GMT -5
And we're back to the frame story I think Meredith is resigning her commission. HAH! "God gave you a big sister instead of a brain"Yeah, Flint ain't that braight. Holy crap, he was actually serious about making that ox an agent? So what is Linderman rabbiting on about? "leaves scars. Soon you will own a small dog named Mr. Muggles and be very spacy all the time" So he fixes her brain. And hah! So Merdith is responsible for the fire Claire decides do dare death with. And Whosiswhasis recognizes Claire and it seems, has a conscience or something twisted akin to it. Claire! Greg has already been alerted to the fact that I intend to use that line at the first opportunity.
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Post by Rachael on Nov 11, 2008 16:14:51 GMT -5
Holy crapcakes!!!!! DaddyP has grabbed Hiro's power? Oh, hell no!! Didn't he already have it, from siphoning Peter?
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Post by Rachael on Nov 11, 2008 16:22:25 GMT -5
Holy crapcakes!!!!! DaddyP has grabbed Hiro's power? Oh, hell no!! Didn't Artie get them ensuite with Peter's? Right, that. So, on balance, I'm enjoying this season far more than last season. I'm finding the plotlines easier to follow, and the characterization more satisfying. When I found out Tim Kring had replaced all his writers, it all started to make sense to me. At any rate, I love what they've done with Sylar. He's actually interesting again, rather than just tediously disgusting. And Papa Petrelli...well, he's a REAL villain. Actual scare factor. I'm distressed that Peter's been drained of all powers - I get that maybe it's about him having gotten too powerful for good writing, but now we have TWO villains (Sylar...a semi-villain?) who have nearly unstoppable powers, and frankly I don't see how that lends itself to better plotting. I have an hypothesis, though, that Peter gets re-upped next week during the eclipse. I also find it fascinating that there are at least three ways to transfer powers from one person to another, and that they're expressed differently depending on the personality of the Petrelli involved. Peter - always the empath, he doesn't "take" powers so much as "share" them. Nothing is lost when Peter gains something new. Arthur - has to take it away from you in order to use it himself. He can't share - he has to have the power all to himself. Sylar - has to kill you (assuming you're not invulnerable) to get your power, and feels compelled to do so. No self-control, and he has to eliminate others who are special in order to be special himself. Interestingly, though, it doesn't HAVE to be that way. If you can survive his examination of your brain, then the power is more like Peter's - he gains, but the victim doesn't lose. And whoever's doing the writing now is making more sense in terms of genetics. At least those who are related are starting to shape up to have similar powers. And they've retconned away the differences between Peter and Nathan's abilities.
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