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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Feb 4, 2011 16:56:28 GMT -5
He still looks good, but he's never looked as good to me since he shaved his head on TV. His own hair color doesn't emphasize his best features as well as the Spike look did. Yeah, his features sort of shrink away under darker hair. However old he is, he managed to do some damage to Alex O'Loughlin when they fought on H50. Julia, given that AOL is fourteen years younger and at least six intches taller... Yeah. JM is little, but wiry.
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Feb 4, 2011 16:57:40 GMT -5
Office is closed! Closed office! Free day off! Having had the foresight to stock up on food supplies, I am sitting here in my fuzzy robe and slippers! I spent 15 minutes dancing around the house going WHEE!!! When I called in the office at 5AM they hadn't posted the closing, meaning they intended to open. However, having once nearly been killed in a flood, and with every news station running vid after vid of wrecks, closed roads, stranded people and jackknifed trucks, I've decided that bad weather and tiny cars are unmixy things. All roads that lead to my office are covered in black ice. Said roads and overpasses--including every road I would use to get to work--are closed. Most of the city is shut down and nearly school, business or city office is closed. So I declared it a Fukitall Day and went back to bed When I called in at 7:30 the message was up. All you S'cubies who are buried in snow, please remember that the cowboys here don't know how to drive under icy conditions. It's not the ice that's so dangerous, it's the idiots who try to drive on it. Meanwhile I'm going to go have a bagel and a cup of coffee! WHEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Houston was on the weather channel -- with videos of 18 wheelers sliding around on interstate entry ramps. It said the surface streets were actually okay because they are on solid ground -- which was warm; but the flyovers were freezing into solid ice in the extremely cold air. Wise decision. I couldn't go down the stairs from my condo for the same reason. This kind of cold is not common here. We're used to roasting or steaming not freezing.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Feb 4, 2011 21:09:49 GMT -5
Meh. Need a non-fuzzy throw for the new chaise (the ones at Ikea were all fuzzy) and so far I would need to be rich to get anything not ugly.
Julia, stupid fleece everything
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 4, 2011 22:17:50 GMT -5
If I was her parent, I'd have been very concerned . . . when she was 17 and, IMO, now. But me - none of my business, then or now. I read that she is from Germany, and German laws are different, so it wasn't a legal issue for him to be dating her while she was 17 and living in Germany. But no matter what the laws were, I do believe my dad would have gotten the baseball bat, and stood on the porch steps, daring a 40ish man to even think about getting out of the car to take his high school age daughter on a date. That said, Dad was 51, and Mom was 28, when they got married (though they were also those same ages when they met, 20 days before the wedding). Wow! I've got a daughter who is 28 and if she married a 51 year old after knowing him only 3 weeks I'd flip. The 3 weeks would actually be a bigger problem for me, but I don't think I'd be happy about the 51 either. I guess that was less unusual several generations ago but I"m sure it was not the norm even in the 50's. So your dad was pretty old(ish) when you were growing up? OLDISH DAD. Yes, sorta. Dad was 53 when I was born. Really, as a kid, it meant nothing to me. When you're little, people are in three big categories - Kids like you, Grownups, and Really Old People. So my dad was in that middle group to me (he had a dark, full head of hair into his mid 60's, and was in very good physical shape up until he got truly sick in his late 70's). He could do anything anybody else's dad could do, and was in better shape than - well, my memory is, everybody else's dad. Rock hard muscles and flat stomach from hard physical labor, and just general good health. I was probably - in my late teens before it started to enter my conscious awareness that dad was considerably older than my friends' dads. THREE WEEKS: Well . . . it was kinda like an arranged marriage thing, except my mom was 100% free to say yes or no. Dad had come to America in the early 1900's at the age of 19. It's a very long story, but for many reasons, he waited until he was 51 to decide he should get married and raise a family. So he went back to Italy, to his home town, to find a bride. His nephew (my cousin, Giorgio) knew my Mom. He knew her to be a beautiful, smart, talented young woman who had suffered many difficulties during WWII and had not yet married (at 28, quite the old maid). Giorgio told Mom that his uncle was looking for a bride to take back to the USA. Mom agreed to meet said uncle. Dad was thrilled at the first meeting. My Mom was indeed, gorgeous and smart, and Dad got word to her that he wanted to marry her and take her back to the USA if she was willing. Mom was not so immediately taken. She said she wanted to think about it. She did a novena to the Virgin Mary (nine days of prayer), asking for guidance. She ended up with this very strong feeling that she was meant to say yes. So she did. The marriage was quickly arranged - and 20 days after they met, they were married. Neither Mom, Dad, nor Mom's Dad (her mother died during WWII) had any expectation that they had to know each other well to get married. It was far from unheard of for people who barely knew each other to marry. Her Dad knew the family, as it was a small town. It was a fairly common thing for young women to go to America to marry men they had NEVER met, so in fact, it was a plus that Dad had gone to the trouble of making the trip, meeting Mom, meeting Mom's father, etc. Anyhow - they raised 4 girls in Columbus, Ohio, and stayed married for 29 yrs, until Dad died in 1981. And honestly - that's only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the wild and crazy - but brave and amazing - lives of my Mom and Dad.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 4, 2011 22:19:29 GMT -5
Wow! I've got a daughter who is 28 and if she married a 51 year old after knowing him only 3 weeks I'd flip. The 3 weeks would actually be a bigger problem for me, but I don't think I'd be happy about the 51 either. I guess that was less unusual several generations ago but I"m sure it was not the norm even in the 50's. So your dad was pretty old(ish) when you were growing up? My dad married my stepmother (a year younger than me) when she was 27; He was an older father, not when I was a kid--but when my sister was. He was 27 when I was born and 57 when she was born. You could say that whatever the best of him may have been, I got it. How old IS Marsters? The mags are saying 48, but I could swear he's a year or two past 50 by now. No, I think 48 is right. I am remembering 1962 as year of birth.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 4, 2011 22:29:17 GMT -5
If I was her parent, I'd have been very concerned . . . when she was 17 and, IMO, now. But me - none of my business, then or now. I read that she is from Germany, and German laws are different, so it wasn't a legal issue for him to be dating her while she was 17 and living in Germany. But no matter what the laws were, I do believe my dad would have gotten the baseball bat, and stood on the porch steps, daring a 40ish man to even think about getting out of the car to take his high school age daughter on a date. That said, Dad was 51, and Mom was 28, when they got married (though they were also those same ages when they met, 20 days before the wedding). Actually, my first serious relationship was when I was 17 with a mid - late 30sih gentleman. My parents were fine with it as long as I was. But then again, I was a very mature 17 almost 18. Just saying. It is an individual thing. I do believe both my Mom and my Dad would have seriously entertained the idea of one of their girls entering into the sort of "arranged" marriage thing they did . . . though Dad would not have been OK with an older man coming around FOR A DATE. Now, if the older man was thinking MARRIAGE . . . that would have been different. They would sometimes sort of cautiously "feel us out" in regard to sons of friends of theirs . . . but they quickly got the idea the we were American girls and were going to have none of that. And they never pushed us in any way on that score. BUT, had one of us been willing, I'm sure Dad and Mom would have been OK with a nice arranged marriage with the son of a family they were familiar with, even if he was older. But neither sons nor daughters of our generation were into it. So . . . bottom line: They loved us. They had many sleepless nights and didn't understand us very well, but they adapted.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 4, 2011 22:37:04 GMT -5
If I was her parent, I'd have been very concerned . . . when she was 17 and, IMO, now. But me - none of my business, then or now. I read that she is from Germany, and German laws are different, so it wasn't a legal issue for him to be dating her while she was 17 and living in Germany. But no matter what the laws were, I do believe my dad would have gotten the baseball bat, and stood on the porch steps, daring a 40ish man to even think about getting out of the car to take his high school age daughter on a date. That said, Dad was 51, and Mom was 28, when they got married (though they were also those same ages when they met, 20 days before the wedding). And yet we all think Bogart and Bacall had one of the great romances of our times. She was born in 1924, he in 1899; she was 21 when they married. Michael Douglas is also 25 years older than Catherine Zeta Jones (and was 14 years older than his first wife). For that matter, my sister is 13 years older than her husband. Now, if he'd dumped her when she turned 21 and found another teenager, that would be a very bad sign. Julia, not, in fact, an advocate of great disparities in age between spouses, especially since I have a birds-eye view of the horrors of being 50 with a spouse in his eighties in a friends marriage. I wouldn't say I'm a Bogie & Bacall fan, but that is not about their age discrepancy. It's about knowing almost nothing about them, and generally being suspicious of anything billed by Hollywood as a "great romance." This may be influenced by the fact that I recently finished reading a book my sis got at Christmas, all about the "great" Taylor/Burton romance. All I could think after I read the book (which was definitely selling the "great love" angle) was . . . well to very badly paraphrase Xander in Pangs: "If that is great romance, I'd rather have pie."
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Post by rich on Feb 4, 2011 22:46:41 GMT -5
If I was her parent, I'd have been very concerned . . . when she was 17 and, IMO, now. But me - none of my business, then or now. I read that she is from Germany, and German laws are different, so it wasn't a legal issue for him to be dating her while she was 17 and living in Germany. But no matter what the laws were, I do believe my dad would have gotten the baseball bat, and stood on the porch steps, daring a 40ish man to even think about getting out of the car to take his high school age daughter on a date. That said, Dad was 51, and Mom was 28, when they got married (though they were also those same ages when they met, 20 days before the wedding). And yet we all think Bogart and Bacall had one of the great romances of our times. She was born in 1924, he in 1899; she was 21 when they married. Michael Douglas is also 25 years older than Catherine Zeta Jones (and was 14 years older than his first wife). For that matter, my sister is 13 years older than her husband. Now, if he'd dumped her when she turned 21 and found another teenager, that would be a very bad sign. Julia, not, in fact, an advocate of great disparities in age between spouses, especially since I have a birds-eye view of the horrors of being 50 with a spouse in his eighties in a friends marriage. 30+ years difference really seems excessive, but Jan and I had a 16 year difference between us and for us it worked out fine. The heart wants what the heart wants. Hi folks. Long time.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 4, 2011 23:03:54 GMT -5
And yet we all think Bogart and Bacall had one of the great romances of our times. She was born in 1924, he in 1899; she was 21 when they married. Michael Douglas is also 25 years older than Catherine Zeta Jones (and was 14 years older than his first wife). For that matter, my sister is 13 years older than her husband. Now, if he'd dumped her when she turned 21 and found another teenager, that would be a very bad sign. Julia, not, in fact, an advocate of great disparities in age between spouses, especially since I have a birds-eye view of the horrors of being 50 with a spouse in his eighties in a friends marriage. 30+ years difference really seems excessive, but Jan and I had a 16 year difference between us and for us it worked out fine. The heart wants what the heart wants. Hi folks. Long time. "Heart wants what it wants" true, but should heart go after what it wants? That's an entirely different question. If both people are adults, I don't think age makes any difference. I mean - if one person is 40, and the other is 80 . . . well, so what? The question is "when is someone an adult?" Some people never are; some people are quite adult in their teens. Most people are somewhere in between. Now you and Jan don't really fit into this discussion at all, since you were both big kids the whole time - but I guess that works too. And yes, long time! Good to see you on the board.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Feb 5, 2011 0:11:22 GMT -5
And yet we all think Bogart and Bacall had one of the great romances of our times. She was born in 1924, he in 1899; she was 21 when they married. Michael Douglas is also 25 years older than Catherine Zeta Jones (and was 14 years older than his first wife). For that matter, my sister is 13 years older than her husband. Now, if he'd dumped her when she turned 21 and found another teenager, that would be a very bad sign. Julia, not, in fact, an advocate of great disparities in age between spouses, especially since I have a birds-eye view of the horrors of being 50 with a spouse in his eighties in a friends marriage. I wouldn't say I'm a Bogie & Bacall fan, but that is not about their age discrepancy. It's about knowing almost nothing about them, and generally being suspicious of anything billed by Hollywood as a "great romance." This may be influenced by the fact that I recently finished reading a book my sis got at Christmas, all about the "great" Taylor/Burton romance. All I could think after I read the book (which was definitely selling the "great love" angle) was . . . well to very badly paraphrase Xander in Pangs: "If that is great romance, I'd rather have pie." You should read any of Lauren Bacall's memoirs. Julia, sh'e not one to mince words.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 5, 2011 8:45:44 GMT -5
Wow! I've got a daughter who is 28 and if she married a 51 year old after knowing him only 3 weeks I'd flip. The 3 weeks would actually be a bigger problem for me, but I don't think I'd be happy about the 51 either. I guess that was less unusual several generations ago but I"m sure it was not the norm even in the 50's. So your dad was pretty old(ish) when you were growing up? OLDISH DAD. Yes, sorta. Dad was 53 when I was born. Really, as a kid, it meant nothing to me. When you're little, people are in three big categories - Kids like you, Grownups, and Really Old People. So my dad was in that middle group to me (he had a dark, full head of hair into his mid 60's, and was in very good physical shape up until he got truly sick in his late 70's). He could do anything anybody else's dad could do, and was in better shape than - well, my memory is, everybody else's dad. Rock hard muscles and flat stomach from hard physical labor, and just general good health. I was probably - in my late teens before it started to enter my conscious awareness that dad was considerably older than my friends' dads. THREE WEEKS: Well . . . it was kinda like an arranged marriage thing, except my mom was 100% free to say yes or no. Dad had come to America in the early 1900's at the age of 19. It's a very long story, but for many reasons, he waited until he was 51 to decide he should get married and raise a family. So he went back to Italy, to his home town, to find a bride. His nephew (my cousin, Giorgio) knew my Mom. He knew her to be a beautiful, smart, talented young woman who had suffered many difficulties during WWII and had not yet married (at 28, quite the old maid). Giorgio told Mom that his uncle was looking for a bride to take back to the USA. Mom agreed to meet said uncle. Dad was thrilled at the first meeting. My Mom was indeed, gorgeous and smart, and Dad got word to her that he wanted to marry her and take her back to the USA if she was willing. Mom was not so immediately taken. She said she wanted to think about it. She did a novena to the Virgin Mary (nine days of prayer), asking for guidance. She ended up with this very strong feeling that she was meant to say yes. So she did. The marriage was quickly arranged - and 20 days after they met, they were married. Neither Mom, Dad, nor Mom's Dad (her mother died during WWII) had any expectation that they had to know each other well to get married. It was far from unheard of for people who barely knew each other to marry. Her Dad knew the family, as it was a small town. It was a fairly common thing for young women to go to America to marry men they had NEVER met, so in fact, it was a plus that Dad had gone to the trouble of making the trip, meeting Mom, meeting Mom's father, etc. Anyhow - they raised 4 girls in Columbus, Ohio, and stayed married for 29 yrs, until Dad died in 1981. And honestly - that's only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the wild and crazy - but brave and amazing - lives of my Mom and Dad. Wow, that's a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 5, 2011 8:48:37 GMT -5
And yet we all think Bogart and Bacall had one of the great romances of our times. She was born in 1924, he in 1899; she was 21 when they married. Michael Douglas is also 25 years older than Catherine Zeta Jones (and was 14 years older than his first wife). For that matter, my sister is 13 years older than her husband. Now, if he'd dumped her when she turned 21 and found another teenager, that would be a very bad sign. Julia, not, in fact, an advocate of great disparities in age between spouses, especially since I have a birds-eye view of the horrors of being 50 with a spouse in his eighties in a friends marriage. 30+ years difference really seems excessive, but Jan and I had a 16 year difference between us and for us it worked out fine. The heart wants what the heart wants. Hi folks. Long time.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 5, 2011 10:00:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't say I'm a Bogie & Bacall fan, but that is not about their age discrepancy. It's about knowing almost nothing about them, and generally being suspicious of anything billed by Hollywood as a "great romance." This may be influenced by the fact that I recently finished reading a book my sis got at Christmas, all about the "great" Taylor/Burton romance. All I could think after I read the book (which was definitely selling the "great love" angle) was . . . well to very badly paraphrase Xander in Pangs: "If that is great romance, I'd rather have pie." You should read any of Lauren Bacall's memoirs. Julia, sh'e not one to mince words. I can believe that would be some interesting reading. Will keep it in mind next time I am feeling the yen to read some celeb biography.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 5, 2011 10:16:47 GMT -5
OLDISH DAD. Yes, sorta. Dad was 53 when I was born. Really, as a kid, it meant nothing to me. When you're little, people are in three big categories - Kids like you, Grownups, and Really Old People. So my dad was in that middle group to me (he had a dark, full head of hair into his mid 60's, and was in very good physical shape up until he got truly sick in his late 70's). He could do anything anybody else's dad could do, and was in better shape than - well, my memory is, everybody else's dad. Rock hard muscles and flat stomach from hard physical labor, and just general good health. I was probably - in my late teens before it started to enter my conscious awareness that dad was considerably older than my friends' dads. THREE WEEKS: Well . . . it was kinda like an arranged marriage thing, except my mom was 100% free to say yes or no. Dad had come to America in the early 1900's at the age of 19. It's a very long story, but for many reasons, he waited until he was 51 to decide he should get married and raise a family. So he went back to Italy, to his home town, to find a bride. His nephew (my cousin, Giorgio) knew my Mom. He knew her to be a beautiful, smart, talented young woman who had suffered many difficulties during WWII and had not yet married (at 28, quite the old maid). Giorgio told Mom that his uncle was looking for a bride to take back to the USA. Mom agreed to meet said uncle. Dad was thrilled at the first meeting. My Mom was indeed, gorgeous and smart, and Dad got word to her that he wanted to marry her and take her back to the USA if she was willing. Mom was not so immediately taken. She said she wanted to think about it. She did a novena to the Virgin Mary (nine days of prayer), asking for guidance. She ended up with this very strong feeling that she was meant to say yes. So she did. The marriage was quickly arranged - and 20 days after they met, they were married. Neither Mom, Dad, nor Mom's Dad (her mother died during WWII) had any expectation that they had to know each other well to get married. It was far from unheard of for people who barely knew each other to marry. Her Dad knew the family, as it was a small town. It was a fairly common thing for young women to go to America to marry men they had NEVER met, so in fact, it was a plus that Dad had gone to the trouble of making the trip, meeting Mom, meeting Mom's father, etc. Anyhow - they raised 4 girls in Columbus, Ohio, and stayed married for 29 yrs, until Dad died in 1981. And honestly - that's only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the wild and crazy - but brave and amazing - lives of my Mom and Dad. Wow, that's a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing. Here is a pic to go with the story: Dad is 56 in this picture; Mom is 33. My youngest sister would be born 4 years later. Though I know the story of my Dad's life - the coming to America, the working for years for very low wages and sending most of the $$ home to his family (he was the oldest son) and living on as little as possible, the bootlegging to get through the depression, the 3 years in federal prison due to the bootlegging, the getting back on his feet after, the couple of American girlfriends that went nowhere . . . I still often wonder what exactly possessed him to go back to Italy for a bride to start a family and such. He did get to meet Vince - and he really enjoyed have a grandson. After my husband died when Vince was so tiny, we moved into my parent's home for about two years. We were still living there when Dad died (Vince was 18 mos old). It was fun to see him with the baby. He was quite sick by that time, but Vince used to make him laugh, and he enjoyed having the little guy around.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 5, 2011 10:34:48 GMT -5
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