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Post by Karen on May 4, 2007 20:02:30 GMT -5
The 3rd installment of Buffy Season 8!
Willow is back!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 4, 2007 20:44:10 GMT -5
Couple quick thoughts: Things are really speeding up, which is good. Ethan! Can't wait to see what be thinks of this development. Buffy's threesome fantasies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait until Lola gets her copy and squees along with me.
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Post by jeff on May 4, 2007 23:25:11 GMT -5
Wow. This was a good one! Yeah for Willow being back! And to turn to the second page and see ETHAN! that was a shocker! the ladies have naked Spike and naked Angel. The guys have nurse Buffy and slayers playing strip poker! (anyone notice in the strip poker scene the girl on the left is reading a FRAY comic!) ROFL Willow and Amy battle! Totally cool! Dawn dropping an F bomb! Language sweetie! ROFL So who kissed Buffy? I am going with Willow! Xander is too easy of an answer, plus he had a dumbfounded look on his face. Plus Amy tried to get him to try it last episode. Willow threatened peoples eye's. She said it was someone in that room. I dont see it being a nobody. So it had to be one of them two. Willow is smiling when Buffy finally woke up. So I say Willow loves Buffy. Ok that just sounds weird when I say it. Willow loves Buffy? If this is the case, then I am officially shocked!!! Andrew is bored stiff playing strip poker with hot slayers! OMG! Oh and as for the very last page! I freaking called it! I dont get many right but I nailed this one!
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Post by Onjel on May 5, 2007 17:24:26 GMT -5
Couple quick thoughts: Things are really speeding up, which is good. Ethan! Can't wait to see what be thinks of this development. Buffy's threesome fantasies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait until Lola gets her copy and squees along with me. LOLOLOL! I was thinking the same thing! ;D
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Post by Onjel on May 5, 2007 17:26:46 GMT -5
Wow. This was a good one! Yeah for Willow being back! And to turn to the second page and see ETHAN! that was a shocker! the ladies have naked Spike and naked Angel. The guys have nurse Buffy and slayers playing strip poker! (anyone notice in the strip poker scene the girl on the left is reading a FRAY comic!) ROFL Willow and Amy battle! Totally cool! Dawn dropping an F bomb! Language sweetie! ROFL So who kissed Buffy? I am going with Willow! Xander is too easy of an answer, plus he had a dumbfounded look on his face. Plus Amy tried to get him to try it last episode. Willow threatened peoples eye's. She said it was someone in that room. I dont see it being a nobody. So it had to be one of them two. Willow is smiling when Buffy finally woke up. So I say Willow loves Buffy. Ok that just sounds weird when I say it. Willow loves Buffy? If this is the case, then I am officially shocked!!! Andrew is bored stiff playing strip poker with hot slayers! OMG! Oh and as for the very last page! I freaking called it! I dont get many right but I nailed this one! You sure did, Mr. Smartypants! Awesome issue. I'm just bummed I have to wait a month for the next one. So, how do you think Amy did it? I mean, there wasn't even a body left to, ahem, use. So. . .. Loved black-eyed, veiny Willow making a brief reappearance and the fact that she can now control the power so it doesn't overtake her. Loved it!
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Post by Onjel on May 5, 2007 17:31:04 GMT -5
Oh, and was anyone else surprised when we saw Giles talking to one of the demons that were such a trial in the first issue? Didn't see that coming.
And, how funny was it when Dawn stepped on, well who she stepped on, and then started talking about the undead doing Pride and Prejudice around her ankles? LOLOLOL! (I'm talking from memory here since I don't have the issue with me.)
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Post by jeff on May 6, 2007 15:02:17 GMT -5
Wow. This was a good one! Yeah for Willow being back! And to turn to the second page and see ETHAN! that was a shocker! the ladies have naked Spike and naked Angel. The guys have nurse Buffy and slayers playing strip poker! (anyone notice in the strip poker scene the girl on the left is reading a FRAY comic!) ROFL Willow and Amy battle! Totally cool! Dawn dropping an F bomb! Language sweetie! ROFL So who kissed Buffy? I am going with Willow! Xander is too easy of an answer, plus he had a dumbfounded look on his face. Plus Amy tried to get him to try it last episode. Willow threatened peoples eye's. She said it was someone in that room. I dont see it being a nobody. So it had to be one of them two. Willow is smiling when Buffy finally woke up. So I say Willow loves Buffy. Ok that just sounds weird when I say it. Willow loves Buffy? If this is the case, then I am officially shocked!!! Andrew is bored stiff playing strip poker with hot slayers! OMG! Oh and as for the very last page! I freaking called it! I dont get many right but I nailed this one! You sure did, Mr. Smartypants! Awesome issue. I'm just bummed I have to wait a month for the next one. So, how do you think Amy did it? I mean, there wasn't even a body left to, ahem, use. So. . .. Loved black-eyed, veiny Willow making a brief reappearance and the fact that she can now control the power so it doesn't overtake her. Loved it! Yes, I shutter at the thought of Amy and skinless Warren "Doing it." Just EWW! I can't wait to see what Willow has been up to in the last year! So who do you think kissed Buffy? I am curious on everyones opinion on this? I still say it was Willow! I can't believe I am saying that , but that is the way it seemed to point to me.
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Post by Onjel on May 6, 2007 15:58:34 GMT -5
I think it was Willow too, but then she started talking about Kennedy and how they were taking it slowly and. . .. So, did you notice that one of the slayers with Andrew was reading "Fray"? LOL! And, Joss appears in the boxes of the long history of Buffy's dreams, along with Buffy and Angel 4ever? I don't know what that means for my Spuffy loving heart, but. . .. Oh, and next month is supposed to wrap up this arc of the season! So soon! And, with whom is Buffy's biggest confrontation to be?! Bigger than TFE? Wow! I wish we didn't have to wait a month. Yeah, like we've never heard that before. ;D Skinless Warren is so creepy I have to second your EWWWWW! ;D
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Post by jeff on May 6, 2007 19:53:12 GMT -5
I think the next arc deals with Faith!!!
I did notice the Fray comic in the Andrew scene.
My question is, If it was Willow kissing Buffy, do you think Buffy will give a go with another woman? Or is she strictly guys only? I just dont see a Willow/Buffy relationship. I want to see it ROFL but I cant. should be interesting to see where Joss takes us.
Also I think I heard something of a 2 month break after next month, before the next arc starts up. That is in no way confirmed, but I think I read it in the comments section of one of the comics or I saw it online somewhere.
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Post by Onjel on May 6, 2007 20:12:47 GMT -5
I think the next arc deals with Faith!!! I did notice the Fray comic in the Andrew scene. My question is, If it was Willow kissing Buffy, do you think Buffy will give a go with another woman? Or is she strictly guys only? I just dont see a Willow/Buffy relationship. I want to see it ROFL but I cant. should be interesting to see where Joss takes us. Also I think I heard something of a 2 month break after next month, before the next arc starts up. That is in no way confirmed, but I think I read it in the comments section of one of the comics or I saw it online somewhere. A two month break? *sigh* In that way it's like television. What a drag. I'd have to go check my issues, but I remember something about that too. Faith! Cool! I love Faith. I think Buffy is het, and I don't see Joss changing that, but I've been wrong about stuff before.
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Post by Lola m on May 10, 2007 16:35:17 GMT -5
OK, y'all knew I had to do this first thing . . . SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEthreesome! **does dorky arm pumping thing along with vaguely cheerleady jumps and some squeaking** And such an extremely entertaining and embarassing threesome! The oh-so-campy cupids! The stakes poised over the open flowers! **snicker, snicker** The chains!! **snortle** The nurse's outfit! (Didn't she and Riley play around with a nurse thing at one point? ) And she's soooooo "OMG I can't believe someone else is seeing this". ;D But I knew she was thinking about this kinda thing in her fantasies, if nowhere else. You don't suggest oil if your mind hasn't gone the two guys route at some point. Ahem. OK, now I'll do a more "wow, look at the plot!" kinda post.
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Post by Lola m on May 10, 2007 17:38:37 GMT -5
OK, lots and lots of plotty goodness in this comic! LOTS! Whew! Gonna need a lot of re-reading, this one.
Ethan Rayne!! Well, that was a surprise! ("And then I threw up in my mouth a little." **guffaw, snortle**) He's "hitched a ride" into Buffy's dream space; the dream space that Amy is holding her in. So, yes, we're seeing a mixture of Buffy dream material; memories, fantasies, the kind of reworking of reality that all of us do in our dreams - but also a layer of "collective slayer memory and prophesy". Amy has trapped her here, so she's seeing all of it, but also she is able to move within it, direct it, understand she is dreaming. Lucid dreaming, of a type. She's gathering clues, figuring out who is responsible, etc. (Makes me think of when the First Slayer walked thru their dreams. Also, I loved looking at all the cubes of different dream images - Joss is there! I'm sure I'll keep revisiting those images as we get further into the series. Amy's rat cage? Heeee!) And I bet we didn't see all of her dreamscape clues, either. I'll bet we'll see more as the season progresses.
But Ethan is not part of her subconscious dream landscape (at least not this interactive Ethan she's talking with). Again, he says he "hitched a ride"; he's apparently trying to help Buffy, which means he's acting separately from Amy; he says he "can't see outside" himself, he doesn't even know Amy's name but he "connected" with her; and later he appears to be trapped himself, caged. Now, last time we saw Ethan, the Initiative was taking him away and of course we know army guys of some kind are the ones currently holding/working with Amy, so . . . .
If Ethan is still held by them, then I figure he is trying to break free magically. Perhaps, looking for Buffy's and Giles' help? When they manage to help Willow escape ('cuz I know they will!!), will they find and free Ethan too? He'd be a good "inside source", he could help them in return, perhaps? And even without him saying it, I already knew that we all need to pay attention to/remember what we saw in the dreamscape - what hints we got from Amy's dreamscape.
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Willow!!! Lots of intriguing stuff with Willow - number one being, to me, that she has not been hanging with the gang for a while. Xander is back from Africa, and long enough to have started up a flirtation with a slayer and get a gig helping to organize things. Andrew's been in contact from Rome. Giles is still very much in the picture, teaching slayers and researching and talking with demon clan heads and what not. But Willow has been having a "funky" time and obviously hasn't been in contact with the gang. Everyone is so surprised (happy, but surprised) to see her; she doesn't know the latest goings on, like Dawn being giant, etc. Sounds like she and Kennedy haven't even been that together, so . . . where ya been and what have you been doing, Willow?
And then there is the big Willow and Amy fight! Like the back and forthing, the way Willow is "weak" but really is just absorbing the mojo, like she did from Rack and Giles; then she bests Amy (with squishy giant foot help) apparently, but of course this is also a trap.
I liked how the attack had lots of layers. The light show is a distraction but so is the zombie army. Even capturing Amy is not the solution because "running a trace" is the trigger to open a portal and grab both Amy and Willow. Interesting wording that Amy uses - "we're contracted to bring in the slayer". Very army-lingo.
It will be very cool if it turns out that creating the spell to trap Buffy in her dreamscape will ultimately prove to be the undoing of Amy and crew. If Buffy got enough info there to help defeat them, it would be a nice "hoist on their own petard" thingee.
Lots of nice reminders of dark!Willow - "We totally have to talk. Are you evil again?" - and of course the final panel of eeeeeeek!skinless!Warren. Jeff, you are oh so clever to have called that one!
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The kiss!!! Hmmmmm. It looks like it has to have been either Willow or Xander. Well, actually, of course, it could have been one of a half dozen slayers or so too, but I'll bet it was either Willow or Xander. And frankly, I can make a good case for either one of them . . . . Most intriguing!
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The rest of the Watcher organization. I like seeing more glimpses of how they are set up. Like the castle where Buffy and Xander and lots of slayers are working. It looks like they have medical facilities there. And either medical people or the slayers have medical training - which is actually a good idea.)
Modern technology is being used alongside magic and mystics now. I like seeing them using monitors and communication devices and so on. Heck, just seeing the scoobies actually communicating regularly is great! (Although it does make Willow's absence even more mysterious.
The little snippet we got of Giles will be a development to keep an eye on. I like that the new Watcher's Council is being flexible, getting info where ever it exists, etc. It seems very right for how Buffy would want the new group to work - her flexibility and willingness to try new ways and ideas were one of her main strengths. (Of course we've already seen that they are emphasizing another of her great strengths - teamwork - in the training of new slayers.) I guess I don't really know if talking with demon clan heads is new for the Watcher's Council or not. We didn't see enough of their previous organization to know for sure. But they were so very anti-demon that I tend to think Buffy and crew will do things a bit differently in that area too.
Andrew!! Oh, Andrew. He's playing what looks like strip poker with what are, I'll bet, a bunch of slayers. And he's bored. ;D
OK, that's all I can think of right now. But there is sooooo much excellent plotty goodness in this one. I'll read thru your posts now and I'm sure I'll have lots more to say as I re-read!
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Post by Lola m on May 10, 2007 17:40:43 GMT -5
Couple quick thoughts: Things are really speeding up, which is good. Definitely! We got a lot of story in this one. And even more story possibility. I was thinking that too! And I also wonder if any of the ideas they were planning for the Ripper series will make their way into the comic? ;D ;D ;D Ahem. Well, I guess I did just what you were expecting, eh?
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Post by Lola m on May 10, 2007 17:45:29 GMT -5
Wow. This was a good one! Yeah for Willow being back! And to turn to the second page and see ETHAN! that was a shocker! They really surprised me wiht Ethan. Heee! Yep, I noticed that too! Between that and the image of Joss, it's making me realise I need to go thru these several times, really looking at each panel carefully! ;D I wonder if we'll see that part of the issue is the group continuing to treat Dawn so much like a kid. Becoming a giant could be unconsciously related to that. I'm so torn! I am close to fifty/fifty here, but I guess if pushed, I have a teensy more of me that is thinking Willow too. If only because, as you say, Xander is too obvious. Yes, you definitely earned the smarty pants with that guess! ;D
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Post by Lola m on May 10, 2007 17:47:11 GMT -5
Couple quick thoughts: Things are really speeding up, which is good. Ethan! Can't wait to see what be thinks of this development. Buffy's threesome fantasies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait until Lola gets her copy and squees along with me. LOLOLOL! I was thinking the same thing! ;D OMG - so you guys are saying I'm . . . . predictable?! ;D ;D ;D **pouts** Just because I post some sort of "threesome is the answer" response to virtually any show I watch doesn't mean . . . . Um. I guess it does, doesn't it?
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