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Post by Sue on Nov 21, 2006 22:29:40 GMT -5
Hmph. Major paradox issues in that case. 'Cause if he succeeded, regardless of how long it took him, we should already know. But you can't count on television writers to remember that. I have some faith in these guys. I think Hiro is currently doing somehting else "same real-time" Even tho' he can shift time and space, so far they haven't shown that he can really be more than one place at a time. Or realized that he can. Part of hte growth of the hero, you know? But I think (and am hoping) that we'll have an explanation we can all get behind why he didn't pop back in and tell Ando something. Here's a thought... maybe Hiro's powers don't work in the past because whatever event awakened them doesn't work then... He could be "stuck" there, until say the eclipse. Not that this logic has anything to do with him not poppping back in since he'd have a week or two after the eclipse to start time hopping again... but it's an interesting thought anyway. Vlad My latest theory: Hiro has come up against/discovered some physical property of the time-jumping which prohibits him from affecting the near-recent past. The waitress said he showed up about 6 months ago (which we see re-enacted at her birthday party where she waves Hiro into the picture) but that he (and I thought at the time that her choice of words was very odd) he just "winked out of her life about 2 weeks ago." So, he went back 6 months, lived thru the next 5 1/2 months hoping to save her but was either yanked out of the time loop by some property of the physics of time travel OR he suddenly had to go jump somewhere else for something else important.
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Post by Sara on Nov 21, 2006 22:29:52 GMT -5
It looks like everybody has said everything already. Sigh. Stupid time zones. Except maybe for this: I believe it happens sometimes that a childless couple adopts a child, then becomes pregnant. One reads about these things. I would, however, like to point out, for what it's worth, that I said last week that soccer boy was a spirit guide. But nobody listens to me, grumble grumble grumble... Anne, especially my nearest, dearest and cats ETA: And furthermore, I suggested last week that the radioactive guy might be the cause of the New York nuclear explosion. Now everybody's doing it... Anne, maybe I should just be Marci for a while Um, sweetie... you weren't the only person (nor I think the first) that thought Ted was potentially involved in the upcoming NY explosion last week... or even the week before. I think no one may have commented overtly becuase everyone was pretty much in aggreement/leaning that way already. Now there is more evidence leaning even mor that way so people are discussing it again. Really, no one should be feeling like Marci here. In fact, I have been enjoying the show discussions more over HEROES than I have over a lot of shows recently. Everyone is contributing. Debate is lively. HEROES poses questions but seems to be paying off with eventual answers regularly as compared to some other shows *coughLOST,BSGcough*, which is making it a more enjoyable watch ...for me at least. Vlad Well, maybe no one should ever feel like that, but it does happen. For example, there was a time when someone asked a Star Wars question which I answered almost immediately. Yet an hour later there you (and a few other folks) were, pondering and debating the answer to the question. I felt like going back and adding some big flashing lights to my post. And I suspect just about every other S'cubie has had at least one moment when they sat at their computer and wondered if their posts were only visible to themselves. I'm just sayin'...
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Post by Sara on Nov 21, 2006 22:31:47 GMT -5
Matt's (that's Greg Grunberg's character name, right?) wife---she seems to be to a parallel to Simone. Matt and wife. Peter and Simone. wife and Simone definitely (at least thus far) supporting characters. At least Simone has a name. (And isn't she in the upfront credits as a series regular? Is Eden?) So maybe more down the line. Simone is indeed in the main credits; Matt's wife and Eden are both still listed as guest stars. As is HRG, for that matter. ETA: HRG being how Claire's father is referred to on other boards--Horn-Rimmed Glasses. I like it 'cause it takes much less time to type than any permutation of "Claire's dad."
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Post by Sue on Nov 21, 2006 22:34:51 GMT -5
"Save the cheerleader, save the world."
So, I'm not seeing at all the connection between saving Claire and stopping NYC from exploding. I'm glad Peter asked and got no answer.
One thing saving Claire was a part of was Eden get her hands voice on Sylar. So, like, dominoes, ya know...
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Post by Matthew on Nov 21, 2006 22:37:17 GMT -5
Huh.... Mr. Deveaux wasn't supposed to be a talent, as such, but we get a clear indication (through Simone, heh) that Peter was communicating with him in his dream, just prior to Mr. Devaux's death: maybe Peter's power is some sort of hyper-empathy that can be applied to talents and non-talents alike....Would fit perfectly in with him being a nurse. Yeah, I also had a thought about the empathy angle. But my point about Mr. Deveaux was that he was, in comparison to his daughter, a more clearly and interestingly drawn character despite his relatively short screen-time. Oh, I got that: I agree: I really liked the dude despite what, two-three minutes only of speaking time? I just had a think based off of it....
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Post by Sue on Nov 21, 2006 22:39:28 GMT -5
It looks like everybody has said everything already. Sigh. Stupid time zones. Except maybe for this: I believe it happens sometimes that a childless couple adopts a child, then becomes pregnant. One reads about these things. I would, however, like to point out, for what it's worth, that I said last week that soccer boy was a spirit guide. But nobody listens to me, grumble grumble grumble... Anne, especially my nearest, dearest and cats ETA: And furthermore, I suggested last week that the radioactive guy might be the cause of the New York nuclear explosion. Now everybody's doing it... Anne, maybe I should just be Marci for a while Um, sweetie... you weren't the only person (nor I think the first) that thought Ted was potentially involved in the upcoming NY explosion last week... or even the week before. I think no one may have commented overtly becuase everyone was pretty much in aggreement/leaning that way already. Now there is more evidence leaning even mor that way so people are discussing it again. Really, no one should be feeling like Marci here. In fact, I have been enjoying the show discussions more over HEROES than I have over a lot of shows recently. Everyone is contributing. Debate is lively. HEROES poses questions but seems to be paying off with eventual answers regularly as compared to some other shows *coughLOST,BSGcough*, which is making it a more enjoyable watch ...for me at least.Vlad Right there with ya, bro! As well, I know both LOST and esp. BSG are trying to confront us with big questions about the meaning of life, good, bad, choices, humanity, etc but I like the in your face directness and immediacy of how those questions are tossed at us in Heroes. Like Claire saying "well, I could have been nicer." Stop. Think. Well, yeah, I could probably be nicer to the stranger and the strange myself. And, maybe I have no power but I probably still need to do whatever I can to help save the world rather than sitting in a coffee shop drinking endless cups of coffee while the "real" heroes do the heavy lifting. And lots of other stuff too.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 21, 2006 22:40:33 GMT -5
Um, sweetie... you weren't the only person (nor I think the first) that thought Ted was potentially involved in the upcoming NY explosion last week... or even the week before. I think no one may have commented overtly becuase everyone was pretty much in aggreement/leaning that way already. Now there is more evidence leaning even mor that way so people are discussing it again. Really, no one should be feeling like Marci here. In fact, I have been enjoying the show discussions more over HEROES than I have over a lot of shows recently. Everyone is contributing. Debate is lively. HEROES poses questions but seems to be paying off with eventual answers regularly as compared to some other shows *coughLOST,BSGcough*, which is making it a more enjoyable watch ...for me at least. Vlad Well, maybe no one should ever feel like that, but it does happen. For example, there was a time when someone asked a Star Wars question which I answered almost immediately. Yet an hour later there you (and a few other folks) were, pondering and debating the answer to the question. I felt like going back and adding some big flashing lights to my post. And I suspect just about every other S'cubie has had at least one moment when they sat at their computer and wondered if their posts were only visible to themselves. I'm just sayin'... It's been coming on for a while, and not just here; this morning was just the trigger. #grouphug# S'cubies, who are the best.
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Post by Rachael on Nov 21, 2006 23:01:58 GMT -5
"Save the cheerleader, save the world." So, I'm not seeing at all the connection between saving Claire and stopping NYC from exploding. I'm glad Peter asked and got no answer. One thing saving Claire was a part of was Eden get her hands voice on Sylar. So, like, dominoes, ya know... I think the connection is yet to come. Claire is gonna be instrumental in stopping New York from blowing up. If that's even the "save the world" scenario in question. Hell, it's not the world; it's just New York. But if Claire was killed by Sylar, she'd be unable to function in whatever capacity she's clearly gonna be needed down the road a bit.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 22, 2006 8:37:42 GMT -5
"Save the cheerleader, save the world." So, I'm not seeing at all the connection between saving Claire and stopping NYC from exploding. I'm glad Peter asked and got no answer. One thing saving Claire was a part of was Eden get her hands voice on Sylar. So, like, dominoes, ya know... I think the connection is yet to come. Claire is gonna be instrumental in stopping New York from blowing up. If that's even the "save the world" scenario in question. Hell, it's not the world; it's just New York. But if Claire was killed by Sylar, she'd be unable to function in whatever capacity she's clearly gonna be needed down the road a bit. That's how I've been thinking of it too. Saving her from Sylar simply means she is still alive to do her part of whatever is needed to save the world. I'm enjoying everyone's different ideas about Hiro and why he wasn't able to save the waitress. We've got some good possibilties here, I'll be interested in seeing which of them is really what happened (or is happening ). So, do we think that Mohinder is going to start looking up all the special people now? And it that going to be safer because Sylar is nabbed? I bet there are some other dangerous special folks out there. I mean, Niki/Jessica alone is someone you wouldn't want to just stroll up to and start chatting about what power she has. Also - any ideas on what they'll do to Sylar?
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Post by Sue on Nov 22, 2006 9:02:52 GMT -5
And somewhere down the line you just know there are going to be secret governmental agencies involved.
And MEDIA.
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Post by Rachael on Nov 22, 2006 9:34:04 GMT -5
And somewhere down the line you just know there are going to be secret governmental agencies involved. And MEDIA. Hell, I think that CheerleaderDaddy IS one of the secret governmental agencies. I've thought that from Chapter One.
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Post by Sara on Nov 22, 2006 9:40:41 GMT -5
Notes from watching the last 20 minutes or so again this morning:
1. Jackie's death? Still harrowing. 2. I don't believe Peter absorbed Sylar's power(s); to me it looked like he deflected the stuff Sylar was throwing at him with his arms, and saved himself from serious injury by moving in the same direction as the item in question. 3. Among the names that can be seen on Chandra's list were D.L., Niki, Matt, Isaac, Nathan, and Hiro. 4. Eden stopping Sylar? Still very cool. 5. In the preview it looks like Eden once used her mojo against one of the other main characters.
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Post by Sara on Nov 22, 2006 9:41:56 GMT -5
"Save the cheerleader, save the world." So, I'm not seeing at all the connection between saving Claire and stopping NYC from exploding. I'm glad Peter asked and got no answer. One thing saving Claire was a part of was Eden get her hands voice on Sylar. So, like, dominoes, ya know... I think the connection is yet to come. Claire is gonna be instrumental in stopping New York from blowing up. If that's even the "save the world" scenario in question. Hell, it's not the world; it's just New York. But if Claire was killed by Sylar, she'd be unable to function in whatever capacity she's clearly gonna be needed down the road a bit. #metoo#
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Post by Karen on Nov 22, 2006 10:25:06 GMT -5
Matt's (that's Greg Grunberg's character name, right?) wife---she seems to be to a parallel to Simone. Matt and wife. Peter and Simone. wife and Simone definitely (at least thus far) supporting characters. At least Simone has a name. (And isn't she in the upfront credits as a series regular? Is Eden?) So maybe more down the line. Simone is indeed in the main credits; Matt's wife and Eden are both still listed as guest stars. As is HRG, for that matter. ETA: HRG being how Claire's father is referred to on other boards--Horn-Rimmed Glasses. I like it 'cause it takes much less time to type than any permutation of "Claire's dad." Hee! I've used that acronym for him (here - did no one notice? ). It's pretty nifty. Those glasses - they are odd, aren't they? Almost like a disguise, in the way of being Clark Kentish - not really a disguise, but a way to change people's perception of him. About Simone. I read where the writers wrote her to be like the audience. Pretty much clueless at first, but gradually being drawn into the drama. I like how her character is being slowly revealed. Maybe we'll find out more about her in the 'how it all began' episode next week.
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Post by Onjel on Nov 22, 2006 10:43:05 GMT -5
Simone is indeed in the main credits; Matt's wife and Eden are both still listed as guest stars. As is HRG, for that matter. ETA: HRG being how Claire's father is referred to on other boards--Horn-Rimmed Glasses. I like it 'cause it takes much less time to type than any permutation of "Claire's dad." Hee! I've used that anagram for him (here - did no one notice? ). It's pretty nifty. Those glasses - they are odd, aren't they? Almost like a disguise, in the way of being Clark Kentish - not really a disguise, but a way to change people's perception of him.About Simone. I read where the writers wrote her to be like the audience. Pretty much clueless at first, but gradually being drawn into the drama. I like how her character is being slowly revealed. Maybe we'll find out more about her in the 'how it all began' episode next week. Ooh! I like that observation! You might be onto something here. . ..
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