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Post by karalee on Oct 3, 2003 15:29:19 GMT -5
This is just so wrong! Maybe whatever "rabies" infection is making everyone crazy also effected Spike and he goes momentarily nuts. At least their (ewww) *encounter* doesn't appear to end well. Ok, feeling better now. Spike goes insane, gets bit by Harmony, which shakes him out of his lustful rage (can I again say "ewww") and all ends well. Whew! Want me to pass the barf-bag over, Karen? I do like the idea of flashbacks, though.
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Post by Karen on Oct 3, 2003 15:52:43 GMT -5
Want me to pass the barf-bag over, Karen? I do like the idea of flashbacks, though. I got my own barf-bag, thank you very much, Caraleigh! I like the idea of flashbacks, too. Angel/Angelus in his long hair gives a very romantic feel to his character. Wonder if we'll see both Darla and Dru in the flashbacks?
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Post by Betsy on Oct 3, 2003 15:58:54 GMT -5
Want me to pass the barf-bag over, Karen? I do like the idea of flashbacks, though. Now you all understand why Karalee and I were slamming our heads on the desk and wall, respectively ;D But the flashbacks -- oh yea baby . . . love those flashbacks. Want lots with Angel(us) and Spike. ;D Long hair, period clothing, a bit of my bad boys back. Again, yeah baby ! !
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Post by LadyDi on Oct 3, 2003 22:25:25 GMT -5
WTF is going on at ME?!? I was hoping for a scene where Spike actually apologizes to Harmony for using her (since he's now been there himself). Instead, he's supposedly using her again! If this isn't some kind of fake-out, I'm going to be very put out.
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Post by karalee on Oct 6, 2003 13:37:07 GMT -5
Summary for ep. 6 from Spike On Angel
Summary for Episode 6 Credit to Mythical Boards (coming soon!) and Fox.
While losing heart for his own career as a hero, Angel befriends a disheartened, elderly hero, and battles an Aztec warrior demon who literally eats the hearts of heroes.
Full Summary: Episode 6: The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco
When Gunn brings some documents to Angel to sign, Angel confesses that he feels "disconnected" in his new position, despite the lavish surroundings and increased opportunities to do good. During the conversation Wolfram and Hart's elderly mail guy (known as "Number 5" because he wears a hooded mask with that numeral on it) picks up a stack of mail from Angel's desk and toddles off down the hall. A moment later Angel notices Number 5 forgot an envelope, so he chases after Number 5 and grabs his arm. To Angel's surprise, frail Number 5 tosses Angel through a window and then calmly squeaks away with his cart. Then, as Gunn calls security, Wesley reports that four bodies were just discovered with their hearts ripped out at a special mass for the Mexican Day of the Dead. Angel, Gunn, Wes, and Spike drive to East L.A., where they find yet another body with its heart missing. Then a large demon resembling an Aztec warrior attacks them. Angel and the others fight back but their weapons have no effect, and finally the demon shoves Angel into a dumpster and disappears.
Later at Wolfram and Hart, Fred analyzes the demon's blood while Wesley searches ancient texts for information on the demon. Spike asks about the Shanshu prophecy, which predicts an epic battle and a vampire with a soul who plays a major role in the battle and may get to live again. Spike notes that he's a vampire with a soul and that he heroically closed a hellmouth, but Wes says there's no mention of ghosts in the prophecy. Later Wesley shows Angel a picture of the warrior demon, explaining that it returns every 50 years, on the Day of the Dead, seeking human hearts. Wes also says that on the demon's last visit it was defeated by five brothers who were the champions of their time, and all but one of them were killed in the battle. Angel asks if the surviving brother is still alive, and Wesley says he is… and they know him.
A bit later Angel knocks at the door of an apartment, which is opened by Number 5. He yanks Angel in and slams him into a wall, but this time Angel returns the toss, saying he needs Number 5's help in defeating the Aztec warrior demon. Number 5 insists he's retired, but Angel says he'd honor the memory of his dead brothers by helping. At the mention of his brothers, Number 5 shows Angel a small Day of the Dead altar which contains, among other items, a picture of him and his four brothers, once wildly popular luchadores (Mexican wrestlers) who all wear numbered masks like the one Number 5 still wears. Number 5 recalls their spectacular career in the ring, and says they also fought gangsters and monsters outside the ring on behalf of the weak and helpless. Angel asks how the brothers defeated the warrior demon, but Number 5 says he can't remember, then recounts how after his brothers died he was so disheartened that he took a job with Wolfram and Hart, even though they stood for everything he hated. He says that ever since, he has built an altar and invited his brothers' spirits to visit on the Day of the Dead, but they never come. Angel says it's because Number 5's spirit is broken, and asks how that happened. So Number 5 takes him to a wrestling arena where five midget wrestlers put on an act mocking Number 5 and his brothers in their fight against the Aztec warrior. Number 5 says that despite all his brothers' good deeds, they obviously made no lasting difference in the world.
Meanwhile Gunn and Wes research the warrior demon's victims and realize that each of them had performed a heroic act. At the same time, after Angel sees Number 5 to a bus home, the warrior demon attacks him again. Eventually it raises a dagger over Angel's head… but then, instead of killing Angel, it just backs off and disappears. At the office Wes and Gunn tell Angel how the warrior is taking the hearts of heroes, but Angel notes that it let him live, and he's a hero. Wes and Gunn say that if the demon uses hearts for sustenance, Angel's dead organ wouldn't do it much good. Gunn goes off to see if the warrior has a contract with Wolfram and Hart, but Wesley stays with Angel and says another reason the demon may not have taken Angel's heart is that it can sense, as Wes does, that Angel's heart just isn't in his work any more. Wes asks if Angel still believes in the Shanshu prophecy, which is the only thing that will keep Angel from ending up disillusioned like Number 5. Just then Fred summons them to the lab, where she has discovered that human hearts are like rocket fuel to the demon. Spike speculates that its Achilles heel may be its own heart and Gunn confirms this, saying the demon has a contract that allows it to return every 50 years to search for a talisman that can give it infinite powers. Gunn says the talisman, which looks like a gold coin, was given to a hero who was charged with protecting it, and that it gets passed down from hero to hero through the generations. Angel remembers seeing the coin on Number 5's altar and dashes back to his apartment. When he gets there both Number 5 and the altar are gone. Angel finds Number 5 a few minutes later, setting up the altar to summon the demon near his brothers' grave at a local cemetery. Angel asks for the talisman, but Number 5 says he doesn't have it. Then the demon appears. As it approaches Number 5 says he swallowed the talisman, and invites the demon to cut it out of him. He taunts the demon until it attacks, but as it swings a sword to kill Number 5, Angel attacks. Eventually the demon gets the upper hand and runs its sword through Number 5. As he falls, Angel attacks, but the demon tosses him into the brothers' gravestone. As Angel shakes off the blow, a hand rises from the grave.
As Angel watches, brothers 1 through 4 break out of their grave, ready to fight for Number 5. They grab iron pickets from a nearby fence, and attack the demon lucha-style. Then they pin him to the ground with the fence pickets while Angel drives the demon's own dagger through its heart, killing it. Number 5, barely alive, thanks Angel, then admits that the talisman is really in a thermos full of coffee sitting next to them. As Angel retrieves the talisman, Number Five finally dies, and his brothers pick up his body nd vanish once more into their grave. Later Angel delivers the talisman to Wes and tells him that Number 5 died a hero. Then, after Wes leaves, Angel returns to Wesley's office alone and pulls out a book to read about the Shanshu prophesy.
I haven't seen the Angel episode where it's first mentioned yet, but I'm glad they are addressing the Shanshu prophesy.
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Post by Karen on Oct 6, 2003 14:11:19 GMT -5
Summary for ep. 6 from Spike On Angel
I haven't seen the Angel episode where it's first mentioned yet, but I'm glad they are addressing the Shanshu prophesy. Me too. I hope we won't get more of the same about how the prophesy is "so vague", yadda, yadda. At first Wesley even interpreted the language incorrectly. I think he changed 'dead' to 'life'. Big difference!
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Post by Laura on Oct 6, 2003 14:17:10 GMT -5
Summary for ep. 6 from Spike On Angel Summary for Episode 6 Credit to Mythical Boards (coming soon!) and Fox.
While losing heart for his own career as a hero, Angel befriends a disheartened, elderly hero, and battles an Aztec warrior demon who literally eats the hearts of heroes.
Full Summary: Episode 6: The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco
When Gunn brings some documents to Angel to sign, Angel confesses that he feels "disconnected" in his new position, despite the lavish surroundings and increased opportunities to do good. During the conversation Wolfram and Hart's elderly mail guy (known as "Number 5" because he wears a hooded mask with that numeral on it) picks up a stack of mail from Angel's desk and toddles off down the hall. A moment later Angel notices Number 5 forgot an envelope, so he chases after Number 5 and grabs his arm. To Angel's surprise, frail Number 5 tosses Angel through a window and then calmly squeaks away with his cart. Then, as Gunn calls security, Wesley reports that four bodies were just discovered with their hearts ripped out at a special mass for the Mexican Day of the Dead. Angel, Gunn, Wes, and Spike drive to East L.A., where they find yet another body with its heart missing. Then a large demon resembling an Aztec warrior attacks them. Angel and the others fight back but their weapons have no effect, and finally the demon shoves Angel into a dumpster and disappears.
Later at Wolfram and Hart, Fred analyzes the demon's blood while Wesley searches ancient texts for information on the demon. Spike asks about the Shanshu prophecy, which predicts an epic battle and a vampire with a soul who plays a major role in the battle and may get to live again. Spike notes that he's a vampire with a soul and that he heroically closed a hellmouth, but Wes says there's no mention of ghosts in the prophecy. Later Wesley shows Angel a picture of the warrior demon, explaining that it returns every 50 years, on the Day of the Dead, seeking human hearts. Wes also says that on the demon's last visit it was defeated by five brothers who were the champions of their time, and all but one of them were killed in the battle. Angel asks if the surviving brother is still alive, and Wesley says he is… and they know him.
A bit later Angel knocks at the door of an apartment, which is opened by Number 5. He yanks Angel in and slams him into a wall, but this time Angel returns the toss, saying he needs Number 5's help in defeating the Aztec warrior demon. Number 5 insists he's retired, but Angel says he'd honor the memory of his dead brothers by helping. At the mention of his brothers, Number 5 shows Angel a small Day of the Dead altar which contains, among other items, a picture of him and his four brothers, once wildly popular luchadores (Mexican wrestlers) who all wear numbered masks like the one Number 5 still wears. Number 5 recalls their spectacular career in the ring, and says they also fought gangsters and monsters outside the ring on behalf of the weak and helpless. Angel asks how the brothers defeated the warrior demon, but Number 5 says he can't remember, then recounts how after his brothers died he was so disheartened that he took a job with Wolfram and Hart, even though they stood for everything he hated. He says that ever since, he has built an altar and invited his brothers' spirits to visit on the Day of the Dead, but they never come. Angel says it's because Number 5's spirit is broken, and asks how that happened. So Number 5 takes him to a wrestling arena where five midget wrestlers put on an act mocking Number 5 and his brothers in their fight against the Aztec warrior. Number 5 says that despite all his brothers' good deeds, they obviously made no lasting difference in the world.
Meanwhile Gunn and Wes research the warrior demon's victims and realize that each of them had performed a heroic act. At the same time, after Angel sees Number 5 to a bus home, the warrior demon attacks him again. Eventually it raises a dagger over Angel's head… but then, instead of killing Angel, it just backs off and disappears. At the office Wes and Gunn tell Angel how the warrior is taking the hearts of heroes, but Angel notes that it let him live, and he's a hero. Wes and Gunn say that if the demon uses hearts for sustenance, Angel's dead organ wouldn't do it much good. Gunn goes off to see if the warrior has a contract with Wolfram and Hart, but Wesley stays with Angel and says another reason the demon may not have taken Angel's heart is that it can sense, as Wes does, that Angel's heart just isn't in his work any more. Wes asks if Angel still believes in the Shanshu prophecy, which is the only thing that will keep Angel from ending up disillusioned like Number 5. Just then Fred summons them to the lab, where she has discovered that human hearts are like rocket fuel to the demon. Spike speculates that its Achilles heel may be its own heart and Gunn confirms this, saying the demon has a contract that allows it to return every 50 years to search for a talisman that can give it infinite powers. Gunn says the talisman, which looks like a gold coin, was given to a hero who was charged with protecting it, and that it gets passed down from hero to hero through the generations. Angel remembers seeing the coin on Number 5's altar and dashes back to his apartment. When he gets there both Number 5 and the altar are gone. Angel finds Number 5 a few minutes later, setting up the altar to summon the demon near his brothers' grave at a local cemetery. Angel asks for the talisman, but Number 5 says he doesn't have it. Then the demon appears. As it approaches Number 5 says he swallowed the talisman, and invites the demon to cut it out of him. He taunts the demon until it attacks, but as it swings a sword to kill Number 5, Angel attacks. Eventually the demon gets the upper hand and runs its sword through Number 5. As he falls, Angel attacks, but the demon tosses him into the brothers' gravestone. As Angel shakes off the blow, a hand rises from the grave.
As Angel watches, brothers 1 through 4 break out of their grave, ready to fight for Number 5. They grab iron pickets from a nearby fence, and attack the demon lucha-style. Then they pin him to the ground with the fence pickets while Angel drives the demon's own dagger through its heart, killing it. Number 5, barely alive, thanks Angel, then admits that the talisman is really in a thermos full of coffee sitting next to them. As Angel retrieves the talisman, Number Five finally dies, and his brothers pick up his body nd vanish once more into their grave. Later Angel delivers the talisman to Wes and tells him that Number 5 died a hero. Then, after Wes leaves, Angel returns to Wesley's office alone and pulls out a book to read about the Shanshu prophesy.I haven't seen the Angel episode where it's first mentioned yet, but I'm glad they are addressing the Shanshu prophesy. I wonder if that's the episode that's going to air just before Halloween or just after (the "Day of the Dead" usually refers to Nov. 2, celebrated by Catholics as "All Souls' Day").
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Post by LeeHollins on Oct 7, 2003 15:17:30 GMT -5
From Michelle_McDermo: In some of the spoilers I read about Angel, Spike is a ghost, but he looked all whole in the last scene and in the previews. What in former Hellmouth is he?[/color]
Not whole, more Casper-y. But I hear Spike becomes whole again somewhere around the seventh ep. By the way, if you haven't caught this week's column, make sure you send in your Q's for James Marsters--I'm asking them this Wednesday when I go on-set for a live shot for E! News Live (E!, 7 p.m. ET/PT).
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From seba_88: I hear we learn this week on Angel that Buffy is in Europe. True?
Yes. Angel tells Spike that. And it's the first thing on Spike's mind when he returns. Awww...
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From vash: What did you think about the premiere of Angel? Any new spoilers about the show?
All of your questions about Spike get answered in this Wednesday's episode--why he's there, what he is, etc. And there are some fantastic moments between Spike and Angel as they discuss the whereabouts of Buffy, not to mention Harmony's realization that Spike snogged the Slayer. (By the way, I hear that Spike and Harmony might do a little rekindling themselves, later on in the season.) Also, as time goes on, Spike does plenty to provoke Angel--including suggesting that Angel feels less "special" now that Spike is also a soulful vamp.
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From seba_88: Hey, Nino, any Angel scoop?
Let's keep my porn past our little secret. Angel does its first Halloween-themed ep this year. Something tricky happens to Lorne that makes people do whatever he says. He invites a demon, Archduke Sebassis, to a Halloween party where Sebassis sets out to destroy Angel. And more titillating news: Eve shows up in an ultra-sexy costume and gets into a tit-for-tat verbal war with Angel.
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Post by Betsy on Oct 7, 2003 18:03:27 GMT -5
Look for Spike to regain corporeal form in episode seven of "Angel." Also look for Spike and Harmony to resume their relationship. In addition to a guest spot from the Slayer, we're also guaranteed to see Willow before the season is over. Now who do I have to talk to about getting Andrew to Los Angeles?
We'll get to see Angel's new swank apartment in this week's episode of "Angel" (Wednesday, WB, 9 p.m.). New clothes, new living arrangement, limo drivers, personal assistants, hmmm ... maybe I'll apply for a job at Wolfram & Hart. The most fascinating thing about this episode is the opening sequence which shows Spike's final scenes on the "Buffy" series finale. Please note that when remembered from Spike's perspective, certain lines are strangely missing.
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Post by RAKSHA on Oct 7, 2003 20:42:08 GMT -5
From Michelle_McDermo: In some of the spoilers I read about Angel, Spike is a ghost, but he looked all whole in the last scene and in the previews. What in former Hellmouth is he? [/color] Not whole, more Casper-y. But I hear Spike becomes whole again somewhere around the seventh ep. By the way, if you haven't caught this week's column, make sure you send in your Q's for James Marsters--I'm asking them this Wednesday when I go on-set for a live shot for E! News Live (E!, 7 p.m. ET/PT). ________________________________________________________________________ From seba_88: I hear we learn this week on Angel that Buffy is in Europe. True?Yes. Angel tells Spike that. And it's the first thing on Spike's mind when he returns. Awww... __________________________________________________________________________ From vash: What did you think about the premiere of Angel? Any new spoilers about the show?All of your questions about Spike get answered in this Wednesday's episode--why he's there, what he is, etc. And there are some fantastic moments between Spike and Angel as they discuss the whereabouts of Buffy, not to mention Harmony's realization that Spike snogged the Slayer. (By the way, I hear that Spike and Harmony might do a little rekindling themselves, later on in the season.) Also, as time goes on, Spike does plenty to provoke Angel--including suggesting that Angel feels less "special" now that Spike is also a soulful vamp._________________________________________________________________________ From seba_88: Hey, Nino, any Angel scoop? Let's keep my porn past our little secret. Angel does its first Halloween-themed ep this year. Something tricky happens to Lorne that makes people do whatever he says. He invites a demon, Archduke Sebassis, to a Halloween party where Sebassis sets out to destroy Angel. And more titillating news: Eve shows up in an ultra-sexy costume and gets into a tit-for-tat verbal war with Angel.[/quote] Spike and Harmony rekindling their past all-matched sexcapades? EWWWW. C'mon, they're SO not right for each other. She'd be great for, say, that big cousin of Lorne's, anyone who's as two-dimensional as she is, NOT someone of Spike's complexity. He needs someone with a brain in her head, not Miss Vamp Dimbulb. I hope they don't make the mistake of thinking Harmony is just like Cordelia only blond; Cordelia always had a functional brain in her head. [shadow=red,left,300]GAIL [/shadow]
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Post by Nan-S'cubie Mascot on Oct 9, 2003 4:19:49 GMT -5
Well, I'll be damned. Roy Dotrice--Father, in Beauty and the Beast--is gonna play Wesley's dad. He does a mean disapproval and will undoubtedly be very fine. This per casting news on the Buffy.nu site.
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Post by RAKSHA on Oct 9, 2003 11:56:50 GMT -5
Well, I'll be damned. Roy Dotrice--Father, in Beauty and the Beast--is gonna play Wesley's dad. He does a mean disapproval and will undoubtedly be very fine. This per casting news on the Buffy.nu site. WONDERFUL! I can't think of anyone better to play the senior Wyndham-Pryce! Dotrice is a fine, fine actor and, as you mentioned, quite skilled at playing a credible father-figure.[glow=navy,2,300]GAIL [/glow]
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Post by LeeHollins on Oct 10, 2003 8:46:15 GMT -5
This is from Kristin's column on E!Online......
Strip Tease:[/color] Picture it. James Marsters. In the nude. Do you really need another reason to watch the WB's Angel this season?
During a live set visit for E! News Live, James confessed to me that the rumors are true--he does appear in the buff. In fact, he has already shot the scene. Me-yowww.
I also learned that three fabulous guest stars are set to appear this season: Sarah Michelle Gellar, Alyson Hannigan and Juliet Landau.
But you didn't come to this column to hear me rattle on, so here are James' answers to the questions you sent in earlier this week:
From Danielle Mandno of Tempe, Arizona: How was the transition from Buffy to Angel?[/color]
It really wasn't much of a transition. I just hit the ground running like every year. A lot of the writers and producers are the same. A lot of the directors are the same. I've worked with David Boreanaz before, and I worked with Alexis Denisof doing Shakespeare. So, it feels very normal, and I was welcomed with open arms. The people like one another, and I have to say I'm very, very happy here.
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From Helen Gray of London: Who do you miss most from Buffy?[/color]
Tony Head. He had an energy that was so clean and warm, and you could just feel healed by being in his presence--swear to God. I'd come in all depressed about one thing or another, spend five minutes with Tony and I'd be fine. He's an incredible man. All that warmth is genuine.
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From Gigi Caliente of Los Angeles: How do you feel about Angel and Spike's dynamic this season?[/color]
It's really cool--there is so much there. They share such a deep connection, even a love. They can't really talk to anyone around them about what they've done. They can't talk to humans about how they feel about humans, because vampires look at humans as very limited creatures. They come in and out and don't tell humans much about anything.
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From Kristin M. of New York City: Do you think Buffy really loved Spike?[/color]
No, I think she used him mercilessly. I think she felt dead inside and needed to feel something to make her feel alive. Spike was there and wanted her, and they had great sex. She knew he was in love with her, but I think the real love of her life was Angel. To Spike's credit, he realized that.
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From Melby of San Rafael, California: Who would win an oil-wrestling match--Spike or Angel? And can I watch?[/color]
[Laughs.] That would have to be pay-per-view for sure. It would be more expensive than a Tyson fight. I don't know! I think if those two characters fight, just like Buffy and Spike, they need to be equally matched for dramatic possibilities...it would be a draw.
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From Tiffany of Ontario, Canada: As a very talented musician, will you get to do some music or singing on Angel?[/color]
I doubt it very much. That could be cheesy a thousand different ways. I'm lucky I get to do that outside of Angel. It would be cool, but it would also be...not cool.
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From Amber of Houston, Texas: Your band [Ghost of the Robot] rocks! I read you were putting out your second CD. When?[/color] Soon...It's hard because Kevin the bass player is in college, and I'm doing the show. So, our time is limited. We have about three hours of material to sort through. One of our new songs is about Charlie getting sick of girls fawning over the fact that I'm TV. [Laughs.] It's a great song about how TV is not all that, and they're really pulling the wool over your eyes about what's cool.
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From Earroway of Tustin, California: Do you have any input on your character's development, or is it a surprise to you?[/color]
A complete surprise. I have no input whatsoever, and that's the way it should be. To David's and Sarah's credit, they never really tried to muck with that, and I would never, ever. Plus, I'd be laughed at.
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From Fernanda of Brazil: Why did you decide to continue to play Spike? I love the show, by the way![/color]
I'm lucky I got to play a whole lot of roles before I got Spike. I had a lot of great roles. And not so great roles. I have the benefit of realizing this is probably one of the best roles I'll ever have.
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From TV diva Kristin: You've got a good thing going...[/color]
Yeah. But you know, truth be told, I really want to quit Spike so I can get the roles I really want to play--like schoolteachers and traffic cops. [Laughs.]
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Post by Betsy on Oct 13, 2003 15:08:59 GMT -5
In my search around the internet recently, I came across an article or soemthing mentioning some guest stars on this season's Angel (but for the life of me I can't remember where I read it, but I will see if I can find it).
Anyway, we know that SMG has agreed to 2 episodes during Sweeps (I think it's February's sweeps).
But I also read that Alyson Hannigan (or is it Denisof now) and Juliet Landau will be making a guest starring appearance on Angel this season.
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Post by LeeHollins on Oct 13, 2003 17:15:35 GMT -5
Just a little bit of info from TV Gal's column. Most of it is stuff we've already heard:
Not only is Eve not going anywhere but I'm also hearing that in episode five everything Lorne suggests comes true and Eve and Angel will sleep together. Also we're going to see Wesley's father this season.[/color]
HOWEVER, the "Eve and Angel will sleep together" part is new. I had heard that they make out but I haven't heard they sleep together. Now, TV Gal doesn't have 100% accuracy but she's darn close.
Pisser if Angel and Eve sleep together! I will be one pissed viewer (and no, it's not because I'm a Bangel. It's because I can't stand Eve)
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