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Post by Dev(Rob) on Jan 27, 2004 12:25:53 GMT -5
From Nan's comments on page 30 of "Angel Spoilers 3" I have taken it upon myself to start the new thread. This way all the latest information is kept nice and neat for people to read up on. I'm assuming "Angel Spoilers 3" will stay open for a few days so people can finish their discussions off before making the move to here.
I'll kick the festivities off by copying over the updated future episode spoiler information post by Gail (RAKSHA) which I'm sure she will continue to update.
Here's to having a Spoiled Soul...
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Post by Dev(Rob) on Jan 27, 2004 12:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by RAKSHA on Jan 28, 2004 4:51:35 GMT -5
From Nan's comments on page 30 of "Angel Spoilers 3" I have taken it upon myself to start the new thread. This way all the latest information is kept nice and neat for people to read up on. I'm assuming "Angel Spoilers 3" will stay open for a few days so people can finish their discussions off before making the move to here. I'll kick the festivities off by copying over the updated future episode spoiler information post by Gail (RAKSHA) which I'm sure she will continue to update. Here's to having a Spoiled Soul... Thanx for copying it, Dev. I'll have to copy it too, or do something of that nature, so I can modify it. I don't have time to update until at least Wednesday night, am busy, unless there's something spectacular among percolating spoilers out there...
GAIL
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Post by Dev(Rob) on Jan 28, 2004 21:08:39 GMT -5
nah, as and when you can Gail. I just ment when this takes over from "Spoilers 3" you'd keep it up to date
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Post by RAKSHA on Jan 29, 2004 1:27:27 GMT -5
Episode 10: SOUL PURPOSE: Directed by David Boreanaz, written by Brent Fletcher - knock 'em dead, Dave! This is the reverse 'It's A Wonderful Life', as Angel has repeating nightmares about Spike living Angel's life and Angel being destroyed. Christian Kane (ex-Lindsey) guest-stars, but isn't playing Lindsey. Or is he? And guess who saves Angel from a brain-parasite type of critter?
Episode 11: DAMAGE: Directed by Jefferson Kibbee, written by Stephen DeKnight & Drew Goddard. the one with the mentally damaged Slayer named Dana and Andrew's appearance, and Spike's working with Angel between snarks. Spike loses his hands or his arms, but the W&H medicos re-attach them. Angel comes to visit Spike and they actually have a rational conversation.
Episode 12: 100th Episode - The good news is that Cordelia Returns! The bad news is that it's her swan song...... YOU'RE WELCOME: Written and Directed by David Fury. Cordelia walks and talks and bawls out Angel. A demon named Izzy will play a role in the plot. Spike is being duped by Lindsey, who he thinks is his mentor and is named "oyle". Spike has his own apartment. He's evidently recovered from surgery, since he's up and about and does some zombie-fighting. He also bites Cordelia, claiming that his mentor told him Cordy was part-demon and he was doing a 'taste test'... Cordelia has visions, and memories of Connor. Say TTFN to Lindsey and Eve. BIG NEWS! as of 1/29, two independant sources have said that Cordelia will die at the end of the episode. I don't know if this is true, but there is a possibility, since the plot as I've seen it makes better sense than Cordy walking out of Angel's life to go pursue a new destiny. We'll see.
Episode 13: WHY WE FIGHT: Written by Steven DeKnight & Drew Goddard. flashback to a WWII adventure; Angel and Spike meeting on a German U-boat; implications that Angel was working for the Americans; Angel, Spike and other vampires were prisoners...Spike and Angel play Good Cop, Bad Cop....
Episode 14: SMILE TIME. There's an evil children's TV show that is sucking the life out of kids. Literally. Angel and Gunn battle evil puppets. They might even be transformed into puppets themself, or at least Angel will be. I've heard that the Angel-puppet is torn apart and has to be put back together again at W&H. Nina the pretty blond werewolf-girl from UNLEASHED will appear. Supposedly, JW's child has started watching television and this might be the result. God help us when the tyke hits puberty!
Episode 15: title might be ANOTHER DAY IN L.A. JW will direct. Incorporeal Lilah will supposedly appear to Fred and tell her that Fred's parents have been murdered by ninja cyborgs sent by Knox. Fred will exact vengeance and be offered a job by D'Hoffryn. Lorne is kidnapped. There's also a rumor that Connor might appear in his new identity. And there's a possibility of a big change for Spike (hint: "Morah demon". Harmony sets off on a quest to get her soul. WARNING - some or all of these spoilers could be '"foilers", inaccurate. But Eve will supposedly reappear. Fred & Wes get closer.
Episode 16: Title unknown at this time. Spike and Angel go demon-hunting after Angel is attacked by a bug (presumably a very big bug), and a demon is apparently missing from a repositary of ancient demons. I guess our boys will learn why it's important to let sleeping demons lie. Or maybe Fred will, since she signs for a mysterious package around the same time...And Angel tells Spike that Spike was only invited along (where, we don't know yet) because they felt sorry for him. (sigh. When will Angel realize that playing Kick-The-Spike is not a worthy occupation for a champion....) Fred will be possessed by Illyria the ancient demon. Wesley goes on the warpath against Gunn and Knox, who somehow played a part in Fred's replacement by Illyria. A big fight will take place at W&H - someone will be thrown out one of the windows, could be Angel himself. Episode 15-16 might be a two-parter.
Episode 17. This episode will feature a suburban mother and son who are reportedly Lindsey's wife and stepson. The writers are the ladies who wrote HARM'S WAY and UNLEASHED. Not much detail yet. Oh, Eve will be replaced, though not necessarily in this episode, as Angel's liaison to the Senior Partners.
There are indications that the spoilers for Eps 15-16 are mixed up to some extent. I've also read that there are rumors that ANGEL won't be renewed...
I will keep modifying this post as I get more information on titles, plots, and credits. I try to be as accurate as possible, but make no guarantees as to the information's veracity.
GAIL
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Post by LadyDi on Jan 29, 2004 19:04:52 GMT -5
Considering how spoiled we are, I should think keeping AA's departure from AtS a secret. Was anyone spoiled for Joyce's death? I wasn't reading spoilers back then. H*ll, I wasn't even aware of spoilers back then. Much as I'd hate to see Fred go, one of the most interesting things about the Jossverse is it's unpredictability. Still, no one really dies in science- fiction.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Jan 29, 2004 19:20:35 GMT -5
Considering how spoiled we are, I should think keeping AA's departure from AtS a secret. Was anyone spoiled for Joyce's death? I wasn't reading spoilers back then. H*ll, I wasn't even aware of spoilers back then. Much as I'd hate to see Fred go, one of the most interesting things about the Jossverse is it's unpredictability. Still, no one really dies in science- fiction. I haven't seen any indication of Amy Acker leaving the show, just Fred being dead and possessed by a demon- two way different matters! No new spoiers today, so far, but after yesterday's bombshells it would be a bit much to expect! Julia, who is supposed to be cooking. This is not the kitchen!
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 29, 2004 19:44:24 GMT -5
Considering how spoiled we are, I should think keeping AA's departure from AtS a secret. Was anyone spoiled for Joyce's death? I wasn't reading spoilers back then. H*ll, I wasn't even aware of spoilers back then. Much as I'd hate to see Fred go, one of the most interesting things about the Jossverse is it's unpredictability. Still, no one really dies in science- fiction. I don't remember how many markets BtVS aired in at the time, but I do remember that the Channel 5 (WB) Morning News had Michelle Trachtenberg on, the morning that the episode aired, explaining that Kristine Sutherland was fine so we shouldn't worry about her. It was still a shock when Buffy found Joyce dead at the end of the episode, and I still can't watch the next episode, The Body, without totally losing it and crying all the way through. Anyway, I was semi-spoiled, and it was still a shocker. Some things, one should really be a little prepared for. The Gift, on the other hand... I was not spoiled for that one at all, and it really was a big shock.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 29, 2004 19:45:46 GMT -5
I haven't seen any indication of Amy Acker leaving the show, just Fred being dead and possessed by a demon- two way different matters! No new spoiers today, so far, but after yesterday's bombshells it would be a bit much to expect! Julia, who is supposed to be cooking. This is not the kitchen! I think maybe it's time to give up spoilers. I don't even want to know, anymore... And I really was going to go do something useful, real soon now...
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Post by LadyDi on Jan 29, 2004 21:28:40 GMT -5
I don't remember how many markets BtVS aired in at the time, but I do remember that the Channel 5 (WB) Morning News had Michelle Trachtenberg on, the morning that the episode aired, explaining that Kristine Sutherland was fine so we shouldn't worry about her. It was still a shock when Buffy found Joyce dead at the end of the episode, and I still can't watch the next episode, The Body, without totally losing it and crying all the way through. Anyway, I was semi-spoiled, and it was still a shocker. Some things, one should really be a little prepared for. The Gift, on the other hand... I was not spoiled for that one at all, and it really was a big shock. I just wondered if word had gotten out, re: Sutherland "leaving" the show. How they'll bring Fred back I do not know, but won't they kinda have to if AA's not leaving?
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Jan 29, 2004 21:33:36 GMT -5
I just wondered if word had gotten out, re: Sutherland "leaving" the show. How they'll bring Fred back I do not know, but won't they kinda have to if AA's not leaving? Which, of course, is why I'll still be reading spoilers. Because I'm impatient, and because I hate surprises. Julia, I mean, since I don't have a handy spell around to make me not know this stuff.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Jan 29, 2004 21:54:58 GMT -5
Confirmation of yesterday's 5.12 spoiler is at spoilerslayer. Funny thing is, Tensai is all dissapproving and sympathetic to ME for loosing control of their great surprise because of a reviewer's copy of the episode. Me, too. Not being spoiled for this one would make for a short sharp shock rather than a week of dismay. Julia, not bothered by the inconsistance of these attitudes...
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Post by RAKSHA on Jan 29, 2004 23:28:08 GMT -5
Confirmation of yesterday's 5.12 spoiler is at spoilerslayer. Funny thing is, Tensai is all dissapproving and sympathetic to ME for loosing control of their great surprise because of a reviewer's copy of the episode. Me, too. Not being spoiled for this one would make for a short sharp shock rather than a week of dismay. Julia, not bothered by the inconsistance of these attitudes... I added the Cordelia news to my spoiler list. Actually, plotwise, it makes a lot more sense for her to die than blithely walk away from Angel. Cordy would have hung in there and done her best to persuade Angel to leave W&H.
Wonder what CC did to bug JW, though.
The future death, or displacement of Fred to allow a demon to possess her body, had better not last long, though. And will the real Fred be hanging around as a ghost? Hope not.
GAIL
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Jan 29, 2004 23:59:00 GMT -5
I added the Cordelia news to my spoiler list. Actually, plotwise, it makes a lot more sense for her to die than blithely walk away from Angel. Cordy would have hung in there and done her best to persuade Angel to leave W&H.
Wonder what CC did to bug JW, though.
The future death, or displacement of Fred to allow a demon to possess her body, had better not last long, though. And will the real Fred be hanging around as a ghost? Hope not.
GAIL It makes sense, but I'd prefer her getting into a red convertable with Xander and roaring off in search of new slayers, or something. I'm a dweeb, what can I say? Julia, dweeb and geek, not wuss!
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Post by RAKSHA on Jan 30, 2004 0:11:10 GMT -5
It makes sense, but I'd prefer her getting into a red convertable with Xander and roaring off in search of new slayers, or something. I'm a dweeb, what can I say? Julia, dweeb and geek, not wuss! Xander should have come to L.A. to visit Cordelia; and it would have indeed been wonderful if he had finally gotten the girl instead of Angel. He and Cordy were so cute in high school; the possibilities of them meeting as hell-hardened adults would have been cool to explore.
GAIL
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