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Post by Nickim on Dec 1, 2004 21:47:58 GMT -5
Is that the "it" that killed everyone? Ok - getting a little weird here. Especially after googling 'Ethan Fromme' - and the 'effects of isolation'. Gonna go rewatch and see the part I missed when Claire's boyfriend skipped out on her. Why did he do that? Said he couldn't be a dad. There's a theme--Jack's dad, Charlie's big brother(like a dad), Sawyer's dad killing himself, Sun and her dad, Michael and Walt.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Dec 1, 2004 21:51:40 GMT -5
He said he was "looking for something" when he went to Australia, that he didn't find, "it found him." we gotta stop doing this. I mean it. ;D
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Dec 1, 2004 21:52:22 GMT -5
*brainshare* ;D Going to rewatch the Hurly/Sawyer scene, too, to see if I might have missed something important. ;D See you guys later! night Karen, I'm going to go play with my new toy and tape everything on television for the next week..
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Post by Lola m on Dec 1, 2004 21:53:09 GMT -5
Said he couldn't be a dad. There's a theme--Jack's dad, Charlie's big brother(like a dad), Sawyer's dad killing himself, Sun and her dad, Michael and Walt. Hmmmm. Daddy issues. Are we sure Joss isn't writing this on the sly? ;D ;D Lola And now - I must be off to bed! Nighty night, all you cute lil' s'cubies!
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Post by Nickim on Dec 1, 2004 22:01:04 GMT -5
Is that the "it" that killed everyone? Ok - getting a little weird here. Especially after googling 'Ethan Fromme' - and the 'effects of isolation'. Gonna go rewatch and see the part I missed when Claire's boyfriend skipped out on her. Why did he do that? Well "effects of isolation" would certainly fit.
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Post by Nickim on Dec 1, 2004 22:04:04 GMT -5
we gotta stop doing this. I mean it. ;D Great minds.
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Post by Matthew on Dec 1, 2004 22:19:49 GMT -5
ETHAN ROM=OTHER MAN I'm just sayin' *Splut!* (Which is the sound of Matthew's head 'sploding)
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Post by Matthew on Dec 1, 2004 22:23:45 GMT -5
Wait, though, what if it wasn't Ethan who attacked Claire? I guess he may have needles too but we know SHE has a wicked needle. I think Ethan getting his hands on the baby is probably on the bad side. The psychic obviously feared what the child would become if not raised by Claire - enough that he would send Claire on a plane he knew would crash. I'm not sure that he knew that she would survive the crash... what if all he saw in his vision was the plane going down? He had to know that she would survive, and that the baby would survive too.. I think he may have done it simply to insure that she raised the child herself... there was no one else she could put the child off on anymore. And how weird is it that Claire is having Wyatt from Charmed?
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Post by Matthew on Dec 1, 2004 22:27:14 GMT -5
**sings** Hurley and Sawyer, sittin' in a tree. . . . Frankly, Hurley is the only one who is treating Sawyer with . . . I was gonna say respect, and yes, but more like . . . honesty. He's not making assumptions about Sawyer or threatening him or trying to guilt him or appeal to a "better nature" or anything. He just flat out asked him if he'd give him the list and gave a good reason why. Just asked. You know - like someone could have done about the inhalers. Yep. Definitely not just same ol', same ol'. Man! Goooooood episode. Lola I thought about that too. Hurley was the first person to approach him without threats or without subterfuge or expectation of a right to something, and just ASK. Sawyer may WANT an excuse to be human again, to rejoin the race and the concerns of an interlocked society. And this way gives him a face-saving way to do so. Where he does not have to "defend his own"
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Post by Matthew on Dec 1, 2004 22:29:46 GMT -5
Yes. Let's tie up Jack and smack him around a bit. Like you need an excuse to want to do that. Next you'll be wanting to tie Sawyer to Sayid and spank them both.
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Post by Matthew on Dec 1, 2004 22:32:42 GMT -5
Something I would like to see is Claire holding the baby. Just let the birth take place off screen. It would just be nice for this show to be different. How do you mean? Angstful births are clicheed? *curious*
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Post by Matthew on Dec 1, 2004 22:37:07 GMT -5
I'm going to rewatch it tonight, too, but I think that's what he said. She did have blood on her hands. Charlie saw it. That's why I think that Jack was way off base in insisting that it was just her imagination. How did the blood get there? Is that like the polar bear manifistation? At the beginning in the "previously on Lost" scenes, they replayed the Frenchwoman's transmission. She said "It" killed them all - not "He". She dug her nails into her palms. He covered that when taping her up. What I disliked is the fact that Jack did not emphasize that he did NOT think that she was making it up, even if he did believe it to be all in her head. She might have responded a lot better to him if he said "I KNOW you believe it: We'll keep a watch on you overnights to make sure you are safe. In the meantime, take these tranquilizers to keep you from going into premature labor" His bedside manner sorta sucks.
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Post by Matthew on Dec 1, 2004 22:41:36 GMT -5
Is that the "it" that killed everyone? Ok - getting a little weird here. Especially after googling 'Ethan Fromme' - and the 'effects of isolation'. Gonna go rewatch and see the part I missed when Claire's boyfriend skipped out on her. Why did he do that? 1) He was a complete wuss. 2) It was neccesary for her to have no boyfriendly ties and to be all needy and alone when she got stranded on Gilligan's Satanic Island, so she would be able to be entirely focused on her new life raising Wyatt for Piper from an entirely different show.
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Post by Karen on Dec 1, 2004 22:55:27 GMT -5
1) He was a complete wuss. 2) It was neccesary for her to have no boyfriendly ties and to be all needy and alone when she got stranded on Gilligan's Satanic Island, so she would be able to be entirely focused on her new life raising Wyatt for Piper from an entirely different show. Hee! I didn't think about "Charmed" and Wyatt (I skipped last year's episodes), but I had "Roswell" and alien thoughts running rampant. I just rewatched, and really wondered about the couple who wanted to adopt Claire's baby. *some girl's name I couldn't decifer* and *Joseph*. And that whole "could you sing the "Catch a Falling Star" song to my baby?" angle. What is it about this baby? Had to laugh at Shannon's "rape caves" comment. And "Craphole Island". And liked her brother's heads-up idea about the passenger list. The artist boyfriend paralleling Charlie the musician? I suppose Claire is scared to make the same mistake twice, but I felt so sorry for Charlie.
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Post by Karen on Dec 1, 2004 22:57:45 GMT -5
Like you need an excuse to want to do that. Next you'll be wanting to tie Sawyer to Sayid and spank them both. Looks like we'll see a little Sawyer on Sayid action next week. It looks like there might be some shaving involved.
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