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Post by Rachael on Nov 10, 2005 9:00:42 GMT -5
First off, we didn't see her die. She might be dead, she might not. But, second - her own fault. Dude, when the ghostly/psychic visitation tells you "shh", you shush! You don't go running into the jungle, screaming his name! Clearly Shannon hadn't read enough horror novels. I find it difficult to believe they killed both siblings. Sorry--looks like she's definitely dead, Jim. From USA Today: Maggie Grace, who played Shannon, was "really awesome" about being written out of the show, says executive producer Carlton Cuse.
Her fate was decided early last spring, he says. "We had to negotiate her contract for this season, so she's known for a long time this was coming. But she was nothing but absolutely professional and completely tight-lipped and completely a team player in terms of going to events, doing interviews and participating as a full member of the cast without giving any indication that she was dying."I'm glad they gave the actress plenty of notice that her character was being killed off, though--that seems pretty decent of 'em. Oh, and from the same article, just because it made me laugh: Fans never like to see their favorites go. Cuse remembers that before "we killed Boone last year, Jorge's (Garcia) mother called up and said, 'I hear they're going to kill a character on the show.' And Jorge was like, 'Yeah, Ma.' And she goes, 'I hope it's not Sawyer.' "I'd be thinking, "Thanks Mom--way to be supportive." Well, then color me unimpressed - the death was telegraphed from a mile away, and because I could see it coming, I was completely unmoved by Sayid's "red shirt" speech. Had steeled myself for it - in fact, as others have said, it's the last nail in his coffin, 'cause it always has to be the one who will hurt more who gets left behind.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 10, 2005 9:06:02 GMT -5
Interesting to explore how fear of the other leads to totalitarianism, sort of, with Ana-Lucia and the tail end group.
I actually felt for Sawyer's plight. huh.
I was never really attached to Shannon, but the scene in the rain with Sayid was really touching and I really feel for Sayid losing her. A bit of the old kill off one 1/2 of the couple just when they start getting together, no? Also, I knew she was going to die. Definitely better being spoiled. ;D
Wow on Ana-Lucia accidentally shooting Shannon.
How big is the island? Probably said something about it in an episode I haven't seen, but I keep wondering with all these different groups wandering around and not bumping into each other more often.
I suspect that those who The Others "took" are not really dead. Just a feeling. That was weird with Cindy disappearing.
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Post by Pixi on Nov 10, 2005 9:23:19 GMT -5
This was not a dream. Nope, it was a psychic manifistation!! You heard screams so you woke up the baby and ran toward it. Well, he has a point. WTF? She taught dancing? I would never have guessed that one.Ooooh, father's accident! Yes, it was that night with Jack, 'cuz there he is, slipping by the other doctor! Love those interlinking stories. Maybe you oughta talk to my shoulder. Sawyer you're such a hard ass. Rose don't like the hatch. Listen to Rose! Clever Shannon. Have the dog look for Walt! Well, except for the part where he leads you right to the mutant cannibal COTB people. Ooop. No, he takes you right to your lover's, brother's lover-brother's grave. See - I don't buy Shannon as a dancer either simply because she doesn't have a dancer's body. To get an internship in NY she would have muscles in her legs. She has nice legs but even my daughter Kiersten has absolutely amazingly ripped muscles in her legs. They are working them every single day non-stop and Shannon- doesn't have dancer legs. Okay - that's probably only something a dancer would pick up on so it's just my little nitpick. Feel free to ignore. Boone's scenes were really pointless to me. They brought him back for this. Geesh. I felt sympathy for Shannon but I also kind of feel she brought this on herself. I mean hello - island of evil with pilot-eating monsters (I totally thought the monster would get her), crazy French lady, Tom Cruises' cousin who yeah maybe dead but maybe not, hatch of doom which I can't remember if she knows about, and all kinds of regular beasties like the boar. Why are you just tralalaing off into the jungle? Or were we simply applying the had sex in a horror movie so you have to die rule?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 10, 2005 9:35:26 GMT -5
This was not a dream. Nope, it was a psychic manifistation!! You heard screams so you woke up the baby and ran toward it. Well, he has a point. WTF? She taught dancing? I would never have guessed that one.Ooooh, father's accident! Yes, it was that night with Jack, 'cuz there he is, slipping by the other doctor! Love those interlinking stories. Maybe you oughta talk to my shoulder. Sawyer you're such a hard ass. Rose don't like the hatch. Listen to Rose! Clever Shannon. Have the dog look for Walt! Well, except for the part where he leads you right to the mutant cannibal COTB people. Ooop. No, he takes you right to your lover's, brother's lover-brother's grave. See - I don't buy Shannon as a dancer either simply because she doesn't have a dancer's body. To get an internship in NY she would have muscles in her legs. She has nice legs but even my daughter Kiersten has absolutely amazingly ripped muscles in her legs. They are working them every single day non-stop and Shannon- doesn't have dancer legs. Okay - that's probably only something a dancer would pick up on so it's just my little nitpick. Feel free to ignore. Boone's scenes were really pointless to me. They brought him back for this. Geesh. Not nitpicky at all. Thanks for pointing that out. Something us non-dancers would probably never notice. Guess the writers didn't think of that.
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Post by Sharky on Nov 10, 2005 9:44:24 GMT -5
uh... anybody else freaked out by the "teddy bears picnic" x-box commercial? Or is it just impressed on my mind from Angelus singing it in that ep? It got me. Especially after the "CotTB" clip, I found myself going briefly, "Who's flashback is this? Sayid's? Or mine, as a result of my '70's-based college years?" Figured out my skin wasn't going to start turning paisley about the time the XBox logo came up.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 10, 2005 9:47:20 GMT -5
Meh. I knew Shannon was doomed - all those flashbacks, all that pathos. I think this season has covered about 72 hours of time, with all the flashbacks and the interminable re-showing of the same scene from five different points of view. Stalling, writers? Run out of ideas, have we? Next week, we get the beginning all over again, and apparently for longer. Pfui. No, I'm not in a good or forgiving mood today, although I did like the Charlie and Claire show. Why, though, was Locke the one to show Claire how to swaddle a baby? He's three weeks old, you'd think someone else would have given Claire a few hints by now. Rose, maybe, she seems like the sort who'd know from babies. Oh, and Locke knows that Charlie has a little Virgin drug stash now. That might get interesting, assuming the writers can keep track of all their rapidly fraying loose ends.
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Post by Sharky on Nov 10, 2005 9:48:55 GMT -5
God damn it. I knew it when they started doing her back story. Dammit. That's particularly Jossian of them--fill out Shannon's history, make us have all this empathy for her, and then take her away. Brutal. And all because she was trying to help Walt. Meanwhile, it'll be interesting to see what this does to Ana's tough-girl facade. I don't know. Was her single-mindedness because she wanted to help Walt, or because she desperately needed someone to believe in her? I tend to think the latter.
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Post by Sharky on Nov 10, 2005 9:50:44 GMT -5
Darth Sayid, rise!
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Post by Sharky on Nov 10, 2005 9:55:17 GMT -5
I'm telling you, that dog KNOWS something he isn't barking! That's all I have to contribute for the moment. Hey, he's yellow!
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Post by Sharky on Nov 10, 2005 9:57:37 GMT -5
See - I don't buy Shannon as a dancer either simply because she doesn't have a dancer's body. To get an internship in NY she would have muscles in her legs. She has nice legs but even my daughter Kiersten has absolutely amazingly ripped muscles in her legs. They are working them every single day non-stop and Shannon- doesn't have dancer legs. Okay - that's probably only something a dancer would pick up on so it's just my little nitpick. Feel free to ignore. Nope, no dancer here, and I thought she didn't have the shape I'd expect of a Martha Graham intern.
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Post by Sara on Nov 10, 2005 10:14:03 GMT -5
God damn it. I knew it when they started doing her back story. \ I shoulda known it faster from the whole theme of loss and death. But they suckered me good. Thank you. I was beginning to feel like the lone idiot stumbling around in the woods for not seeing it coming from the get-go. All throughout the episode Greg and I kept talking about who was gonna die, and there seemed just as many reasons to argue it wouldn't be Shannon as there were that it would, at least to me--would they really kill both siblings, why finally make Shannon a character we can really relate to only to get rid of her, stuff like that. Anyway. I definitely didn't guess how the death was going to occur until the moments before it happened--talk about ratcheting up the drama of the other castaways' integration with our core survivors.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 10, 2005 10:53:47 GMT -5
BTW, where in the show was this teddy bears picnic commercial? I recorded it fast forwarded through the commercials when I was watching so I missed it. Thankee.
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Post by RAKSHA on Nov 10, 2005 12:05:19 GMT -5
Since Maggie Grace would not have been allowed to mention her impending freedom from LOST obligations, I'm assuming that it might have been difficult for her to get other acting jobs until now; so I hope she received extra compensation in that contract...
In response to rich's post - I hope that every time a character grows up a bit, or gets over some of their problems, the writers don't kill him/her off. Some of these characters will, or should grow and change due to their extraordinary experiences; and it would be annoying if they were each killed off for making progress.
Have we seen any character become more of a jerk due to the stress of being LOST? Maybe Ana-Lucia? Could be that she got fond of the kids that were abducted, and now she's become Captain Ironbutt or whatever as a reaction. The Tailies are still losing people though. Maybe poor Cindy hung back just to get away from Ana-Lucia, and that's whenthe Others grabbed or killed her.
GAIL
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Post by Matthew on Nov 10, 2005 12:17:13 GMT -5
BTW, where in the show was this teddy bears picnic commercial? I recorded it fast forwarded through the commercials when I was watching so I missed it. Thankee. right after the big scary "LOST" fly-through, at the beginning.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 10, 2005 12:17:25 GMT -5
First off, we didn't see her die. She might be dead, she might not. But, second - her own fault. Dude, when the ghostly/psychic visitation tells you "shh", you shush! You don't go running into the jungle, screaming his name! Clearly Shannon hadn't read enough horror novels. I find it difficult to believe they killed both siblings. Sorry--looks like she's definitely dead, Jim. From USA Today: Maggie Grace, who played Shannon, was "really awesome" about being written out of the show, says executive producer Carlton Cuse.
Her fate was decided early last spring, he says. "We had to negotiate her contract for this season, so she's known for a long time this was coming. But she was nothing but absolutely professional and completely tight-lipped and completely a team player in terms of going to events, doing interviews and participating as a full member of the cast without giving any indication that she was dying."I'm glad they gave the actress plenty of notice that her character was being killed off, though--that seems pretty decent of 'em. Oh, and from the same article, just because it made me laugh: Fans never like to see their favorites go. Cuse remembers that before "we killed Boone last year, Jorge's (Garcia) mother called up and said, 'I hear they're going to kill a character on the show.' And Jorge was like, 'Yeah, Ma.' And she goes, 'I hope it's not Sawyer.' "I'd be thinking, "Thanks Mom--way to be supportive." #rofl1# Yeah, I'd be going, "Um. Mom. What about me?" ;D
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