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Post by Onjel on Nov 10, 2005 21:15:26 GMT -5
Lost was a big topic on local radio here, this evening. One of the DJs opined (and I am sure you have all heard this before) that they are all in purgatory and when they are completed, they "die" and move onto the other side. The kid who is wet and talks backwards (?) and Shannon found someone to love her for herself and was complete. Therefore, she "died" moving on to the other side. There was some discussion that the guy who was not talking was mute on the plane and is now whole, while waiting in purgatory. He loves the show. Maybe I should e-mail him about our little corner of the world. ;D In which case, for Shannon, getting a guy to love her for herself is required for completion? I thought she had a few things left to accomplish, myself. Although the selfless heading out to find Walt was a big boost. Just the messenger here. I don't even watch the show. It's what he said. Perhaps we can get him interested in a debate?
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 11, 2005 7:36:03 GMT -5
Something I just remembered.
I'm sure everyone else saw this too, but I don't recall seeing it mentioned here (if it was, I apologize):
When Shannon goes to the hospital with her Wicked Stepmother, after her dad's accident, Jack pushes past them in the hallway. So this is the other half of how-Jack-met-his-wife, and Shannon is connected to Jack by her father's death.
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Post by Sara on Nov 11, 2005 15:28:41 GMT -5
Whoa. People, we may have been had. There's a discussion going on over at another Lost forum as to whether or not it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon. Seems beyond dispute, right? Maybe not. Check out these two screencaps: Ana Lucia is very clearly right-handed, but the person Sayid is looking at is holding the gun in their left hand. The second thing is a little trickier to spot. But if you watch this snippet (which I realize is very dark and small), paying attention to the object in ther person's left hand, you'll see that it does appear to be a rifle or shotgun--we can see the shoulder strap dangling by the person's leg, and the muzzle of the weapon is also briefly visible. Most important, we never saw Ana Lucia and her group in the same frame as Sayid and Shannon--we only cut back and forth between the two scenes. The viewer is left to infer that the two scenes are happening in the same locale... but then we were led to infer the same thing in Silence of the Lambs as we watch the FBI prepare to storm what we believe is the same house we see Claire Starling approaching. I'll say it again: I think we've been had.
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Post by Karen on Nov 11, 2005 16:12:24 GMT -5
Whoa. People, we may have been had. There's a discussion going on over at another Lost forum as to whether or not it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon. Seems beyond dispute, right? Maybe not. Check out these two screencaps: Ana Lucia is very clearly right-handed, but the person Sayid is looking at is holding the gun in their left hand. The second thing is a little trickier to spot. But if you watch this snippet (which I realize is very dark and small), paying attention to the object in ther person's left hand, you'll see that it does appear to be a rifle or shotgun--we can see the shoulder strap dangling by the person's leg, and the muzzle of the weapon is also briefly visible. Most important, we never saw Ana Lucia and her group in the same frame as Sayid and Shannon--we only cut back and forth between the two scenes. The viewer is left to infer that the two scenes are happening in the same locale... but then we were led to infer the same thing in Silence of the Lambs as we watch the FBI prepare to storm what we believe is the same house we see Claire Starling approaching. I'll say it again: I think we've been had. Whoa. Very interesting! Who else had a gun, or is it one of The Others?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 11, 2005 16:34:23 GMT -5
Whoa. People, we may have been had. There's a discussion going on over at another Lost forum as to whether or not it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon. Seems beyond dispute, right? Maybe not. Check out these two screencaps: Ana Lucia is very clearly right-handed, but the person Sayid is looking at is holding the gun in their left hand. The second thing is a little trickier to spot. But if you watch this snippet (which I realize is very dark and small), paying attention to the object in ther person's left hand, you'll see that it does appear to be a rifle or shotgun--we can see the shoulder strap dangling by the person's leg, and the muzzle of the weapon is also briefly visible. Most important, we never saw Ana Lucia and her group in the same frame as Sayid and Shannon--we only cut back and forth between the two scenes. The viewer is left to infer that the two scenes are happening in the same locale... but then we were led to infer the same thing in Silence of the Lambs as we watch the FBI prepare to storm what we believe is the same house we see Claire Starling approaching. I'll say it again: I think we've been had. Wow! Would the person who shot Shannon be "Walt" then?
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Post by Sara on Nov 11, 2005 16:35:52 GMT -5
Whoa. Very interesting! Who else had a gun, or is it one of The Others? Rousseau has a gun. A rifle, in fact. And I'm uncertain as to whether Desmond took any weapons when he left. Greg and I just rewatched the end, and the clip above definitely hasn't been tampered with; once we knew where to look we could see, however briefly, the muzzle of the rifle/shotgun Shannon's killer is holding. I just rewatched the end of the episode with Greg, and we think that we may have heard a second shot--if so, the sound coincides with when the already-wounded Shannon drops to the mud in front of Sayid. If we're right, that would account for the undeniable fact that Ana Lucia's weapon was also fired. Now I can't wait for the next episode.
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Post by Karen on Nov 11, 2005 16:44:14 GMT -5
Whoa. Very interesting! Who else had a gun, or is it one of The Others? Rousseau has a gun. A rifle, in fact. And I'm uncertain as to whether Desmond took any weapons when he left. Greg and I just rewatched the end, and the clip above definitely hasn't been tampered with; once we knew where to look we could see, however briefly, the muzzle of the rifle/shotgun Shannon's killer is holding. I just rewatched the end of the episode with Greg, and we think that we may have heard a second shot--if we're right, the sound coincides with when the already-wounded Shannon drops to the mud in front of Sayid. If we're right, that would account for the undeniable fact that Ana Lucia's weapon was also fired. Now I can't wait for the next episode. Now, me either. Ana Lucia could have shot the person who shot Shannon. Really curious on who that could've been......which is going to make it hard for me to stay away from spoilers.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 11, 2005 18:11:17 GMT -5
Just to add to the speculation of all you conspiracy theorists, this was just posted on lj. Annotated screencaps about what happened to Cindy and such.
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Post by Sara on Nov 11, 2005 18:18:47 GMT -5
Just to add to the speculation of all you conspiracy theorists, this was just posted on lj. Annotated screencaps about what happened to Cindy and such. Very cool--I love the telestrator-style work on the pictures. Greg and I watched that particular scene a bunch of times yesterday, trying to pick up on what might have happened to Cindy and following the paths of the two bags Libby is carrying at the top of the hill. But we didn't come up with anything more concrete than what these pictures depict--that Cindy seems to simply vanish from one shot to the next.
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Post by leftylady on Nov 11, 2005 18:54:46 GMT -5
Just to add to the speculation of all you conspiracy theorists, this was just posted on lj. Annotated screencaps about what happened to Cindy and such. Very cool--I love the telestrator-style work on the pictures. Greg and I watched that particular scene a bunch of times yesterday, trying to pick up on what might have happened to Cindy and following the paths of the two bags Libby is carrying at the top of the hill. But we didn't come up with anything more concrete than what these pictures depict--that Cindy seems to simply vanish from one shot to the next. Interesting observations. We've mentioned before the parallelling of the Tailenders to our group. Perhaps Libby is the Tailender Ethan Rom.
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Post by Moscow Watcher on Nov 12, 2005 15:00:10 GMT -5
I doubt it. IMHO, Sayid is pretty safe - he's writers' snook at Bush.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 12, 2005 20:39:00 GMT -5
Rewatching this episode, I am struck by how good the scoring is. Cool.
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Post by Rob on Nov 12, 2005 21:28:53 GMT -5
Whoa. People, we may have been had. There's a discussion going on over at another Lost forum as to whether or not it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon. Seems beyond dispute, right? Maybe not. Check out these two screencaps: Ana Lucia is very clearly right-handed, but the person Sayid is looking at is holding the gun in their left hand. The second thing is a little trickier to spot. But if you watch this snippet (which I realize is very dark and small), paying attention to the object in ther person's left hand, you'll see that it does appear to be a rifle or shotgun--we can see the shoulder strap dangling by the person's leg, and the muzzle of the weapon is also briefly visible. Most important, we never saw Ana Lucia and her group in the same frame as Sayid and Shannon--we only cut back and forth between the two scenes. The viewer is left to infer that the two scenes are happening in the same locale... but then we were led to infer the same thing in Silence of the Lambs as we watch the FBI prepare to storm what we believe is the same house we see Claire Starling approaching. I'll say it again: I think we've been had. I suppose it would make me unpopular to suggest this as a major continuity error, and nothing more?
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Post by SpringSummers on Nov 12, 2005 21:49:44 GMT -5
Whoa. People, we may have been had. There's a discussion going on over at another Lost forum as to whether or not it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon. Seems beyond dispute, right? Maybe not. Check out these two screencaps: Ana Lucia is very clearly right-handed, but the person Sayid is looking at is holding the gun in their left hand. The second thing is a little trickier to spot. But if you watch this snippet (which I realize is very dark and small), paying attention to the object in ther person's left hand, you'll see that it does appear to be a rifle or shotgun--we can see the shoulder strap dangling by the person's leg, and the muzzle of the weapon is also briefly visible. Most important, we never saw Ana Lucia and her group in the same frame as Sayid and Shannon--we only cut back and forth between the two scenes. The viewer is left to infer that the two scenes are happening in the same locale... but then we were led to infer the same thing in Silence of the Lambs as we watch the FBI prepare to storm what we believe is the same house we see Claire Starling approaching. I'll say it again: I think we've been had. I suppose it would make me unpopular to suggest this as a major continuity error, and nothing more? Not at all. I think it's the most likely theory of all.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 12, 2005 22:26:55 GMT -5
I suppose it would make me unpopular to suggest this as a major continuity error, and nothing more? Not at all. I think it's the most likely theory of all. This is Lost. The simplest, most likely theory could never possibly be the right one. I'm sure the monkeys writers are frantically typing, trying to figure out how to use the continuity error, if it is one, right now.
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