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Post by Pixi on Apr 26, 2005 21:57:10 GMT -5
AHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! [/size] Say it isn't so!! [/quote] I knew it. I hate it. I knew it. Oh God - could there be any sadder ending. And to have to wait another whole freaking week. Okay - so I've been pausing those previews - I don't see Logan. I see Dick though. Who else is there?
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Post by Onjel on Apr 26, 2005 21:58:42 GMT -5
On a different topic: Murder, rape, drugs, blackmail, child-abuse, gangs, out of control rich kids, perverse teachers, baby switching, sex changes, lots of kids using lots of computer tricks to frame or torture other kids...Neptune is a very scary place to live! Revenge, forgiveness, love, parental love, adult love, teen love, sex, trust, more revenge, all of the above, loyalty, best-friendness, using people, affairs, unknown parentage: no lack of themes here. It is chock-a-block with all manner of chewy goodness!
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Post by Pixi on Apr 26, 2005 22:00:57 GMT -5
Sometimes one just hates to be right! Well, I got this one part of the scenario right. I still don't think he was in on the rape ( ) but I was right on target about him being at least somehow culpable. Do you think he actually put in it Veronica's drink or was he just dispensing it right and left to all the guys. (And, do you suppose he GOT it from good old dad?) Maybe surprised that she simply stood him up rather than confronting him---but I guess they are saving that for next week. I know - this has been what I have been suspecting all along. I hope its just the dispensing. And Sue - the previews look like she is confronting him. I have to think about this episode - alot to process. Wow - Aaron Echolls - where did all that come from? I'm going to agree with Sara - Logan is not the rapist. If so, that would be the big reveal next week. But from the previews, it sure looked like what someone was saying in the last episode thread - it looked like a gang rape. If so -- that is going to be horrible.
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Post by Onjel on Apr 26, 2005 22:01:12 GMT -5
I knew it. I hate it. I knew it. Oh God - could there be any sadder ending. And to have to wait another whole freaking week. Okay - so I've been pausing those previews - I don't see Logan. I see Dick though. Who else is there? I just knew you would be upset! Yes, I watched it tonight and I agree. It is a good show! Thanks for talking me into it!
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Post by Pixi on Apr 26, 2005 22:02:16 GMT -5
Blackmail gone wrong sounds like a good possibility to me. Blackmail combined with the secret Lilly had? Could be.
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Post by Karen on Apr 26, 2005 22:03:52 GMT -5
I knew it. I hate it. I knew it. Oh God - could there be any sadder ending. And to have to wait another whole freaking week. Okay - so I've been pausing those previews - I don't see Logan. I see Dick though. Who else is there? {{Pixi}} When they panned the camera up above the boat, with Logan all alone drinking champagne, it almost looked like he half-expected Veronica not to show up. He didn't seem at all surprised and didn't try and contact her on the phone like a normal person might have. I felt so bad for him at that point. ETA: I didn't watch the previews. I'll have to rewind and catch them. The Beaver was probably right alongside Dick, I bet.
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Post by Sue on Apr 26, 2005 22:04:07 GMT -5
Please pardon this commerical interruption: Welcome to all guests and lurkers. Please join in!
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Post by Onjel on Apr 26, 2005 22:07:21 GMT -5
{{Pixi}} When they panned the camera up above the boat, with Logan all alone drinking champagne, it almost looked like he half-expected Veronica not to show up. He didn't seem at all surprised and didn't try and contact her on the phone like a normal person might have. I felt so bad for him at that point. Dontcha think he had to know she would find out about the GHB at some point? If it was me, I would be wondering if the romancing was just to keep me off guard and mitigate any damage finding out about the GHB would create. Please don't hit me?!
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 22:10:34 GMT -5
wonderful/troubling episode.
getting this out of the way - Did you see the Potential - Reena was it? in the commercial?
Ok - that said,
Logon and Veronica - wonderful together. Aaron - what's this deal with him being all nice and understanding? Nervous making.
Logan was accused of providing the date rape drug. Innocent til proven guilty. that's all I'm saying.
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Post by Pixi on Apr 26, 2005 22:12:17 GMT -5
{{Pixi}} When they panned the camera up above the boat, with Logan all alone drinking champagne, it almost looked like he half-expected Veronica not to show up. He didn't seem at all surprised and didn't try and contact her on the phone like a normal person might have. I felt so bad for him at that point. ETA: I didn't watch the previews. I'll have to rewind and catch them. The Beaver was probably right alongside Dick, I bet. Yeah, he's not recognizable enough to distinguish in that bluey light. In the preview Logan says we just wanted to have fun so I have to go with the just bringing the drugs to loosen everyone up scenario. Plus - he was in his wild, difficult phase, post Lilly's death. The preview I don't understand is Logan grabbing and shoving Weevil. Did Weevil have something to do with the drugs? Did Logan get the drugs from Weevil? I just feel so sad for Logan - he's been so happy and I agree that this is going to rip him apart as much as Veronica. I liked the fact that Veronica said that she wanted to tell Duncan about them before he heard it around. Also Veronica was certainly the little aggressive minx in the bathroom wasn't she?
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 22:12:49 GMT -5
I'm glad that the other kid was at least in on it - would have been a bit crappy to include him in the scam without his knowledge. Ballroom dancing sooooo sweet. So sad to watch Veronica's face as she understands what the notice means. And then when she sees dad. **sniff, sniff** And then the "I get it - you're happy"!!! **sniff, sniff, tears well up just a bit** Oh my, that was so lovely. Done just so well! But eeeeeeeeeep! Tad pressed the button. So what do they do now? Do they go through with it or . . . . No matter what, she can't get back to the way it was before. I'm so glad she opped NOT to take revenge. Veronica could take a lesson from her.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 22:14:10 GMT -5
OKay, here's my thought--the very fact that this came out now, a week before the rapist is revealed, tells me it wasn't Logan. If it had been, they'd have saved revealing this information next week. This reeks of misdirection to me. This doesn't mean Logan's not a stupid, misguided jackass for bringing that drug to the party. But if Tad the scum was able to get his hands on the pills, it's more than likely other folks could as well. Dammit. We are in agreement.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 22:17:55 GMT -5
Oh, he's bad alright. And I have the feeling we'll get more bad before the redemption comes back into play. Angst! Angst! Angst! Angst! Angst! It't gonna be a summer of Angst! We absolutely DON'T know he's bad. His creepy friends could have brought the drug, he took it from them, and blackmailer guy could have taken it from him. We don't KNOW yet Logan could have been keeping the demon eggs for a friend!
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Post by Pixi on Apr 26, 2005 22:18:08 GMT -5
I just knew you would be upset! Yes, I watched it tonight and I agree. It is a good show! Thanks for talking me into it! Hi Onjel. Glad you decided to watch. Yes, I was upset but I knew I would be. I thought from last week's previews that this would be how they would segue into the rape. It just seemed obvious to me that one girl being drugged would lead to Veronica finding out about her being drugged. And since there has been endless speculation that Logan brought the drugs and since I knew there had to be something to bring the angst that wouldn't destroy the character, I was guessing the drugs would be how they would go. Having him be the rapist would be - as Spring has posted- pretty much a character destroyer. And I really don't think they will do it. But he has culpability because he brought the drugs still. The previews also mention Veronica saying she wants to get even. Knowing Veronica is quite the believer in revenge, I wonder what is in store for Dick and the gang. And I'm beginning to think all those who have been picking Dick as the rapist were right. I'm now leaning toward Dick and his buddies but that would be so harsh. Maybe Dick won a coin flip or something. So what did we learn about the murder? Were there any clues?
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Post by Pixi on Apr 26, 2005 22:20:17 GMT -5
We absolutely DON'T know he's bad. His creepy friends could have brought the drug, he took it from them, and blackmailer guy could have taken it from him. We don't KNOW yet Logan could have been keeping the demon eggs for a friend! Hee - Patti you made me smile. And I'm really sad for Veronica and Logan right now.
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