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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:21:54 GMT -5
Oh, God, Sue. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention, cause I can't bear to think I might have missed it. THIS is the salute to Buffy & Spike that I desperately needed to see, and even eases in some ways the betrayal I felt that the Scoobies, even after Spike's sacrifice, couldn't manage even one kind word or any other type of acknowledgement of the pure amazing wonder of what this soulless 'thing' accomplished. For love. Thank you again. Mary
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:22:21 GMT -5
Saw this at the Tabula Rasa site when checking out the great review Sue suggested. Made me laugh, after the review had me crying. Aldous Huxley, on Remorse: "Chronic remorse , as all the moralists are agreed, is a most undesirable sentiment. If you have behaved badly, repent, make what amends you can and address yourself to the task of behaving better next time. On no account brood over your wrong-doing. Rolling in the muck is not the best way of getting clean."
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:22:49 GMT -5
What luba says about Old Blood at The Crypt: If you've ever wished you could see more of Spike's interaction with the SITs -- and Dawn! -- then, boy, do I have the perfect story for you! And some fascinating insight into both the Order of Aurelius and the potential power of the Key is just icing on the cake... Mary, all smiling and excited for Nan!
Mary Statz
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:23:26 GMT -5
Sue - Thanks for the lead on the Tabula Rasa review. . . this quote: "Strange. Angel needs a hope of a future with Buffy and Spike is content with giving her hope for the future. It seems that Angel is slipping into the selfish love that Spike transcended." is exactly what I was thinking, when the B/A interaction reminded me of the B/S interaction in Crush in my earlier page 1 post. Angel wanted a crumb, wanted Buffy to tell him "maybe someday." But Spike, who once longed for this so much he tried chaining her up and basically begging her for a crumb, needed nothing at all in the end. Also interesting use of the word "bask" between Buffy & Angel. Bask is a word you usually use about heat and sunlight, and it describes how good it feels to Buffy to see her first love again, after so long, in such a moment. But it also is the perfect word for what she's doing with Spike, in the sunlight - in reality, not figurately - at the end. Basking in the heat and the light and the love.
Edited By Spring Summers at 5/23/2003 12:23:00 PM.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:23:53 GMT -5
This was also at the Tabula Rasa site. I sent it to Deborah because I knew she'd enjoy it, and she thought it had been posted here before, but even so, it seems fitting to re-post this week: FATE slew him, but he did not drop; She felled - he did not fall - Impaled him on her fiercest stakes - He neutralized them all. She stung him, sapped his firm advance, But, when her worst was done, And he, unmoved, regarded her, Acknowledged him a man. —Emily Dickinson
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:28:48 GMT -5
Some responses Gail Freeman--#153, part 31: Thanks for the memories Part 33: Betsy, #23, love that pic. I think someone (Rae or Alexandra--of course I'll be wrong) posted it long ago, but this time I'm going to remember where to find it. Spring--#84 and others: Thanks for the input regarding whether Buffy and Spike made love. I wish we'd at least seen a kiss (B/A shippers got one, whine) but your posts have helped.
Nan #131:// So good to go from the close inspection, rants of various flavors, and angst of the finale discussion and get back to the really important stuff: Spike's hypothetical wardrobe!// Yes, Nan, yes. I can only take so much emotional angst at once. Looked at this morning's latest allaboutspike offerings. Read the BuffyX story--rip my heart out again. Thank heavens it was followed by Cindy's humorous vignette. Deborah (#172) and all others who commented on Joss' Salon interview: Thanks for the varying points of view and reactions. I need to think more about this. Having once been a "Days of Our Lives" fan (hey, you try staying home all day with 3 kids under 5 and see what fantasy world you turn to), it's a very tough tightrope to walk. Eventually there has to be a "payoff" to the viewer, but I'll agree that it's hard once a couple is together to maintain the interest level. You'd certainly have to be creative with the outside forces causing difficulties. But if B/S got together then it would be the B/S show, not BtVS, and I can really see where that would be a problem. Glad I'm not Joss. Spring, Dave, and others would were part of the female empowerment discussion--enjoyed that immensely. Really like Dave's comment in #182: //Spike's wearing of the amulet wasn't about female empowerment, it was about Spike's own storyline of redemption coming full circle. What he did had nothing to do with what Buffy needed to do for herself in that cave, or what the rest of the slayers also needed to do for themselves. It strikes me that the author of this article is one of those people who gives feminism a bad name, by believing that female empowerment is about putting men in their place. It's not -- it's really about putting women in their place, that is, putting them just as much in the forefront as the men. It scares me that some people don't seem to get that. // Anne, re posting racy pics on a separate thread, said: //And, we could find them easily right away, if so inclined... // My thought, exactly. Sorry to all I left out in my rush. I read and appreciated everything.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:29:26 GMT -5
Greetings, all. It's taken me a while to catch up. I noted various discussions of what we like and don't like for the new board (we don't like more than one thread open at once, we do like indexing threads, etc.). While I agree that we've collectively posted some fascinating discussions about various things here, I'd like to comment that there was very little discussion in the back half of Part 33 about the episode Chosen. If anyone (current S'Cubies, new posters, lurkers) was trying to follow a chain of thought about the episode, it was long gone by the time he/she got to this point. I would suggest that we emulate the ScoopMe! board at least to the point of having separate threads purely for episodes, pictures, spoilers, websites, and miscellany. Granted, most of our best topics have begun as tangents to episode analyses -- but it may just get too unwieldy to have one enormous thread where anything goes. We may lose people who are very interested in what we're all saying, but just don't have the time to get through all the posts. And I know that some of you are saying, "Well, read the subject headings, and skip the ones you don't find interesting." That's not quite going to work either -- we've already seen it in the complaints about the "Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:" type posts that truly have nothing to do with the original subject heading -- but nonetheless contain a discussion that deserves to be read. I also have a feeling that we can cut back on the "invisibility" complaints that have troubled some people if we can confine the episode thread to an episode discussion. For instance, pages of discussion about the term "childe" (and I'll weigh in as one who hates it -- I know Nan identified it as middle English, and someone else identifies it as pretentious and an affectation -- I agree -- but I can't remember now who said that, for which I apologize) may have followed another poster's thoughts about some aspect of the episode. Because everyone starts "piling on" the discussion of "childe," no one gets back to the poster's thoughts. I recognize that this calls for a certain amount of self-discipline by all of us -- and no one should be flogged (with a wet noodle or otherwise) if he or she starts a tangent that takes over an episode discussion. I'm just suggesting that it might be more manageable. A great Memorial Day week-end to my U.S. counterparts, and great "ordinary" week-ends to all other posters! Laura the Lawyer [No, not the AllaboutSpike, and not the lawyer in the Wash Post article. Just me.]
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:30:14 GMT -5
How does one go about contacting the folks at Tabula Rasa? I'd like to tell Patrick Harrington (Tallgent) how much I appreciated his review.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:30:40 GMT -5
Another request for technical instructions: What's the easiest and/or most efficient way to print fan fic off the Scubie site (and others)? I'm running Netscape, and we have a couple Microsoft word processors and Appleworks - I'm guessing you save the file to a word processor first? I'd appreciate any advice - I want to print lots of stuff off before summer vacation comes and I have to share the computer all day. Thanks!
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:31:11 GMT -5
Laura, Good points. I guess we will have much of the summer to play with the new board before new Angel eps start and decisions have to be made.
Sue P
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:31:39 GMT -5
Anne, Someone else will have to give you technical advice on this one. I use the direct method: Call up the chapter and click on print. The only advice I have is DON'T use the "Print Version" on allaboutspike. Yes, it means you can print the whole thing all at once rather than chapter by chapter, BUT the font is so large it about doubles the number of pages. (Although, I guess if you copied it to Word maybe you could change the font?) That's also my big complaint about writer's sites who use white on black background--it won't print. So, is that what you do--copy to Word, then print? Do they set up their site like that on purpose to discourage printing out? I also find it hard to read.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:32:07 GMT -5
There really wasn't a lot of plot cross-over this season between Buffy and Angel (except for Willow to L.A. and Angel briefly at the end). Otherwise, the two camps didn't really appear to be aware of what was happening at the other locations. So, while the empowering of how many? hundreds? of potentials has played out on Buffy, how is that going to affect L.A.? Wouldn't one assume that at least one (or more) of the newly empowered slayers would be assigned to L.A.? Especially since there is an "experienced" watcher available. This could be an interesting cast addition. I know the show is "Angel", not "teenaged girl slayer--the spinoff", but throwing an inexperienced young slayer into the mix to be guided by Wes, Angel and Spike (with the two vampires very carefully avoiding any possible romantic entanglements) might be interesting. Doubt it will happen, but AtS can't just ignore the fact that all those slayers now exist, can they?
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:32:59 GMT -5
10:30 it is. Diane said: Diane said: (Einstein bagels -- not Bangels -- next door) Patti: If we find any bangels, we can taunt them. Nyah Nyah Nyah....Spike's THE champion....Spike's the MAN....nyah nyah... You go first.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 23, 2004 17:33:33 GMT -5
Though it takes times, I always copy all the stories to Word, sometimes chapter by long chapter. THEN I can change the font & font size & font color to what is easiest for me to read. I'll warn you right now, though, that printing off fanfic can become costly! I have literally hundreds of stories printed out and put into binders. Costs: paper, ink cartridges, binders, and NOW (grrr, argh) I'm having more bookshelves built in my home to house them all! It's like a disease or something...
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