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Post by havoc on Feb 4, 2005 23:54:39 GMT -5
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Post by Karen on Feb 5, 2005 0:00:31 GMT -5
Open for business Awesome episode! The cylon/toaster scene was very neat. Those metal cylons give me the shivers. Loved the 'alive' cylon ship and Starbuck's ability to be able to use it. Great moments between both Starbuck and Adama and Apollo and Adama. *snif* I am enjoying BSG so much. I'm very excited to finally be watching a show again that excites me as much as the Jossverse. *bounces happily away* |
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Post by havoc on Feb 5, 2005 0:30:06 GMT -5
Awesome episode! The cylon/toaster scene was very neat. Those metal cylons give me the shivers. Loved the 'alive' cylon ship and Starbuck's ability to be able to use it. Great moments between both Starbuck and Adama and Apollo and Adama. *snif* I am enjoying BSG so much. I'm very excited to finally be watching a show again that excites me as much as the Jossverse. *bounces happily away* I hear ya. I look forward to seeing this every week now as well as "Enterprise". And the new revelations this episode are definitely welcome info. I like the thought put into the redesign of the raider and the fact that it is a self contained cyborg with no need of a crew. I always wondered in the old series what the purpose was of having a flying machine with machine pilots.. |
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Post by Matthew on Feb 5, 2005 4:30:36 GMT -5
I hear ya. I look forward to seeing this every week now as well as "Enterprise". And the new revelations this episode are definitely welcome info. I like the thought put into the redesign of the raider and the fact that it is a self contained cyborg with no need of a crew. I always wondered in the old series what the purpose was of having a flying machine with machine pilots.. THREE of them, no less. Huh.. maybe it was an "I tell you three times" type of control, using the centurions as modular brain units. You know, for versatility! |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 5, 2005 12:15:55 GMT -5
Awesome episode! The cylon/toaster scene was very neat. Those metal cylons give me the shivers. Loved the 'alive' cylon ship and Starbuck's ability to be able to use it. Great moments between both Starbuck and Adama and Apollo and Adama. *snif* I am enjoying BSG so much. I'm very excited to finally be watching a show again that excites me as much as the Jossverse. *bounces happily away* Yep, yep, yep to everything here! **bounce, bounce** BSG is turning out to be soooooo great! Great action - great kabooms - great acting - great emotional backstory and characters - great story arc, with the last remnants of humanity fleeing in the ragtag fleet. I mean, they took one of my fond memories of a much-loved, cheesy, soap-operaesque, sit-comesque show and turned it into . . . wow! The scene with Adama and Apollo, "If it were you, we'd never leave"!   So good! Both actors just blew me away. I mean, I was expecting EJO to be stunning, but . . . ! The entire sequence on the moom with Starbuck was just nail-bitingly excitingly good. I loved how they did it. Having to carve out the living part, and figure out how to get oxygen and patch the leak and then figure out how to fly. Lola |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 5, 2005 12:18:13 GMT -5
I hear ya. I look forward to seeing this every week now as well as "Enterprise". And the new revelations this episode are definitely welcome info. I like the thought put into the redesign of the raider and the fact that it is a self contained cyborg with no need of a crew. I always wondered in the old series what the purpose was of having a flying machine with machine pilots.. Yep. Having the machines sitting in a machine and flying it was always a bit . . . hmmmm. I guess the only time that it does make sense is if the ship is more of a transport thing. Like they're gonna be landing somewhere else and then need to move around in a more flexible manner. But for just the small, fast, zippy fighters? This new idea of a living thing fused into the flyer is much much smarter. Not to mention cooler. Lola |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 5, 2005 12:22:47 GMT -5
THREE of them, no less. Huh.. maybe it was an "I tell you three times" type of control, using the centurions as modular brain units. You know, for versatility! You know, I had always fanwanked it as a mobility or transport thing, (see post above), but this is actually a neater idea. 'Cuz then you could justify them sitting in just a fighter, too.  I really really liked the scene when the president comes to talk to Adama and Apollo. Perfectly done. Take them off to speak not in front of the rest of the crew. Slap some home truths on them in just the right harsh manner, but don't try to "order" them to change. ('Cuz it seems like this society has more of a division between the military and the civilian governmental bodies - from the way Adama kept saying it was a military thing. So in this system I would guess the president is not the commander in chief of the military.) And then, at the end, when they are going to jump, staying on the ship "to see how the professionals do it". She really handled that situation extremely well. Lola |
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Post by Karen on Feb 5, 2005 13:20:25 GMT -5
I hear ya. I look forward to seeing this every week now as well as "Enterprise". And the new revelations this episode are definitely welcome info. I like the thought put into the redesign of the raider and the fact that it is a self contained cyborg with no need of a crew. I always wondered in the old series what the purpose was of having a flying machine with machine pilots.. That does seem a little redundant. The way Starbuck just ripped the brain out of the cybor-raider like it was a piece of garbage, was so.....Starbuck. *Made* my sons rewatch it with me this morning. I think I got them hooked, too. ;D |
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Post by Karen on Feb 5, 2005 13:23:04 GMT -5
THREE of them, no less. Huh.. maybe it was an "I tell you three times" type of control, using the centurions as modular brain units. You know, for versatility! That's a real advancement for them, I think - having the raiders not needing a pilot. Maybe it came with the biological make-up. Do the metal-toaster cylons think for themselves? |
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Post by Karen on Feb 5, 2005 13:27:25 GMT -5
Yep, yep, yep to everything here! **bounce, bounce** BSG is turning out to be soooooo great! Great action - great kabooms - great acting - great emotional backstory and characters - great story arc, with the last remnants of humanity fleeing in the ragtag fleet. I mean, they took one of my fond memories of a much-loved, cheesy, soap-operaesque, sit-comesque show and turned it into . . . wow! The scene with Adama and Apollo, "If it were you, we'd never leave"! So good! Both actors just blew me away. I mean, I was expecting EJO to be stunning, but . . . ! The entire sequence on the moom with Starbuck was just nail-bitingly excitingly good. I loved how they did it. Having to carve out the living part, and figure out how to get oxygen and patch the leak and then figure out how to fly. Lola THe moon sequence was so realistic! When Starbuck started getting pulled - didn't you think it was a cylon at first? Very well done! I could almost smell that cylon raider. EJO - I can't say enough how much having him as part of the cast was a stroke of genious. And MM and the Colonel, too. Yay for the older actors! Not just pretty faces - but character and guts. They pull you right into every scene. The scene with Adama and Apollo - I don't know if I've ever seen such an emotional moment between 2 characters done as well (excluding the Jossverse ). JB is a great actor, too - and also, cute. |
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Post by Matthew on Feb 5, 2005 14:40:53 GMT -5
That's a real advancement for them, I think - having the raiders not needing a pilot. Maybe it came with the biological make-up. Do the metal-toaster cylons think for themselves? I don't know that ANY of them really think for themselves: # 6 implied that the humaniform cylons were all networked... I'd figured that the centurions and the raiders would be, too: though if that last part were true, they were screwed already. Huh. Maybe they have a range: like they are in communication with the total mind ("God") when a BaseStar is nearby, with enough range on its repeaters, but otherwise they act on their own. |
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Post by Matthew on Feb 5, 2005 14:43:45 GMT -5
You know, I had always fanwanked it as a mobility or transport thing, (see post above), but this is actually a neater idea. 'Cuz then you could justify them sitting in just a fighter, too. I really really liked the scene when the president comes to talk to Adama and Apollo. Perfectly done. Take them off to speak not in front of the rest of the crew. Slap some home truths on them in just the right harsh manner, but don't try to "order" them to change. ('Cuz it seems like this society has more of a division between the military and the civilian governmental bodies - from the way Adama kept saying it was a military thing. So in this system I would guess the president is not the commander in chief of the military.) And then, at the end, when they are going to jump, staying on the ship "to see how the professionals do it". She really handled that situation extremely well. Lola How about a synthesis? They did it for both transport and versatillity purposes: were limited in their consciosness units, so just made them tools for a tripartite brain made by temporarily merging the centurions, who would debark and kill hell out of anything on foot, too. |
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Post by havoc on Feb 5, 2005 14:54:40 GMT -5
THREE of them, no less. Huh.. maybe it was an "I tell you three times" type of control, using the centurions as modular brain units. You know, for versatility! Versatility.. LOL. |
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Feb 5, 2005 14:59:20 GMT -5
I'm not reading, cause I haven't seen the episode yet. Actually, just posting to be counted as a BSG fan, even though I haven't spent much time posting on this thread yet!
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Post by havoc on Feb 5, 2005 15:09:46 GMT -5
Yep, yep, yep to everything here! **bounce, bounce** BSG is turning out to be soooooo great! Great action - great kabooms - great acting - great emotional backstory and characters - great story arc, with the last remnants of humanity fleeing in the ragtag fleet. I mean, they took one of my fond memories of a much-loved, cheesy, soap-operaesque, sit-comesque show and turned it into . . . wow! The scene with Adama and Apollo, "If it were you, we'd never leave"! So good! Both actors just blew me away. I mean, I was expecting EJO to be stunning, but . . . ! The entire sequence on the moom with Starbuck was just nail-bitingly excitingly good. I loved how they did it. Having to carve out the living part, and figure out how to get oxygen and patch the leak and then figure out how to fly. Lola Yep. Her *coming to* being dragged by her chute was definitely in the realm of realism. Murphy's law. Bad things usually bring friends. The really nice thing, to me, was that they portrayed a sense of desperation without her coming off as desperate - per se. They also did it in a fashion that avoided that long time bad writer's cliche of a poorly written "just in the knick". Another nice thing they did was to offer the usual points of view of both a conservative approach and a liberal approach to the situation without commenting on the superiority of either. They leave it to us to make up our own minds. Being given credit for having a brain is nicely unassuming non-abusive. I really enjoyed this one as well. I didn't rate it as high in my review; but, It's still up there. And it was, notably, a difficult task to live up to the last one - which I think is worthy of nomination for a Hugo. I see lots of awards in the future of this show if the writing and acting quality can be maintained. |
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