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Post by Karen on Oct 20, 2006 21:25:22 GMT -5
Having just watched the scene again, Greg and I are starting to lean toward the "Ellen didn't know what she was drinking" camp. And I have to be sure to mention, for the record, that Greg totally called what would happen to the Pegasus--that it would end up being sacrificed, most likely being used as a battering ram in its final moments, so we'd be down to just the Galactica once again. Greg rocks! I totally didn't see that one coming at all. Good riddance, tho. I watched the Ellen death scene again, and I'm even more convinced that she did know what was in the drink. I think she was ready to die. She had saved Saul, and I don't think she thought there was a future with him after what she had did to save him. Second time watching, I cried right along with Saul. |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:26:22 GMT -5
Did Saul Kill Ellen? I was too busy smothering my own noisy offspring to notice. He gave her a cup of something, after she apologized to him, she drank it, fell asleep or died, then he bent down and wept over her body. Most people seem to think she's bought it. Still living in happy-land, eh, denial-boy?   |
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Post by Squeemonster on Oct 20, 2006 21:27:07 GMT -5
Well, I'm sure it made sense it his crazy cylon brain. It's insane Cylon logic. I really really really loved the special effects in this ep. Heck, I just loved this ep--sad, sickening, frustrating parts and all.  Awesome special effects! I loved the effect of the fake 'snow' swirling about on NewCaprica at the end. And there was one shot looking back at the gate they had all just broken through that was very effective in showing us just how bleak their lives had been. I know! Really very stunningly heartbreaking. This has been a very emotional, gut-wrenching first few episodes. What we need now is an episode to break the tension and bleakness...an ep where those crazy kids do some sort of wacky hijincks, like group amnesia--Laura and Tigh thinking they're engaged, except Laura decides she doesn't want to marry this crazy old fart with one eye, thin!Lee and Helo thinking they're in love with each other, etc. Or everyone doing some sort of magical mushroom group thing and waking up thinking they're teenage versions of themselves...I'd pay good money to watch Laura and Adama flirt like teenagers...and then Tom and Adama get in a fist fight over Laura.... I really am kidding. ;D |
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Post by Matthew on Oct 20, 2006 21:27:17 GMT -5
Having just watched the scene again, Greg and I are starting to lean toward the "Ellen didn't know what she was drinking" camp. And I have to be sure to mention, for the record, that Greg totally called what would happen to the Pegasus--that it would end up being sacrificed, most likely being used as a battering ram in its final moments, so we'd be down to just the Galactica once again. Greg rocks! I totally didn't see that one coming at all. Good riddance, tho. I watched the Ellen death scene again, and I'm even more convinced that she did know what was in the drink. I think she was ready to die. She had saved Saul, and I don't think she thought there was a future with him after what she had did to save him. Second time watching, I cried right along with Saul. That would make perfect sense, and it's a hell of a way for her to go out. Wow. Oh, poor frakked-up Saul.... |
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Post by Sara on Oct 20, 2006 21:27:20 GMT -5
Apollo doesn't look convinced by what D is telling him. That they need to save humanity by leaving his father and try to find earth. There is no way Tigh is going to be able to kill his wife, if that's the plan. I love how she basically took the decision, and the cup, right out of his hands. From Macbeth: If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly: if the assassination
Could trammel up the consequence, and catch
With his surcease success; that but this blow
Might be the be-all and the end-all here,
But here, upon this bank and shoal of time,
We'd jump the life to come. But in these cases
We still have judgement here; that we but teach
Bloody instructions, which, being taught, return,
To plague the inventor; this even-handed justice
Commends the ingredients of our poisoned chalice
To our own lips. |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:27:47 GMT -5
Did Saul Kill Ellen? I was too busy smothering my own noisy offspring to notice. *snort* Not directly, but she voluntarily asked for the drink he was holding, which ended up being spiked with poison. Not that he told her it was poison, but she knew, I think. But she didn't let on she knew it was poison to Saul, but I think he knew she knew. That's my take on it too. Each of them pretending like mad . . . The way she told him all of it . . . helps convince me she knew what was in the cup. |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:28:47 GMT -5
"GET THE FRAK AWAY FROM MY DADDY!!!!!!" #rofl1# **wipes away tears of laughter** OK, that just completely made me crack up. |
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Post by Squeemonster on Oct 20, 2006 21:30:35 GMT -5
Apollo doesn't look convinced by what D is telling him. That they need to save humanity by leaving his father and try to find earth. There is no way Tigh is going to be able to kill his wife, if that's the plan. I love how she basically took the decision, and the cup, right out of his hands. I like the way you phrased that. Yes, wonderful scene. |
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Post by Matthew on Oct 20, 2006 21:31:40 GMT -5
He gave her a cup of something, after she apologized to him, she drank it, fell asleep or died, then he bent down and wept over her body. Most people seem to think she's bought it. Still living in happy-land, eh, denial-boy? Nope. Not anymore. BUT if she shows up sometime later in the season, having been smuggled aboard one of the ships rolled up in a rug Cleopatra-style, I reserve the right to do the Dance of "I Called It!" Unfortunately, I pretty much doubt that I'm gonna have a chance to do that dance. Ever. *shrug* But it was a beautiful suicide, and a fitting death for her, with no regrets and her eyes open. |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:31:43 GMT -5
I don't think I took a breath throughout that whole last segment. OMG, wasn't it just . . . . whew!!  |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:32:12 GMT -5
Momma's back in the big chair. ;D That was one happy moment for me. Oh, yeah. |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:33:06 GMT -5
Oh, Whoa. I didn't see that coming at all. Hera is left with the Cylons. Oh, and whoa again. It wasn't Kara's child. **nods vigorously** It's like a double whammy of kid-related plot twists. |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:36:10 GMT -5
Leoben is freakin not dead enough. Oh, you so do not love him. Oh, I need the brain-o. PLEASE BE PULLING AN ELLEN! "Neither will I" Oh, whew. Good, thank god. I was never more relieved, I tell ya! ;D Heeee! So totally messed up. And the kid is gonna be messed up too.  I love Adama and Apollo, Together Again. And Adama and Saul, Together Again. **sniffles, just a bit** **bounces** |
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Post by Lola m on Oct 20, 2006 21:36:55 GMT -5
Oh, that lying bastard Leoben... I knew it! What I don't get is how he "saw" that Kara would come for the child, but he seemed so surprised when she killed him again. And did he really think that forcing her to tell him she loved him would really mean anything? The guy is soooo delusional.  |
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Post by Sara on Oct 20, 2006 21:37:11 GMT -5
Dude!!! Was that the most awesome thing ever, or what?! Totally. |
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