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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 17, 2006 22:21:49 GMT -5
Resignation? Laura's not gonna let him.
He can't resign. He's like a Slayer now. I mean like a The One And Only Slayer. Not like the way the Slayers are now.
The admiralty deliberately provoked the Cylons?
Simple explanations make us feel like we have control when we don't
Roslin gives the situation the proper prospective.
I like what Roslin's saying here, but it comes after a couple of episodes of *not* holding people accountable and just letting things drop. So I don't know what to think.
It's not for you, it's for them.
Give them what they need: a hero. That'll be your penance, even if it kills you.
Adama extends the same gesture to Novak that Roslin did to him.
Once a pilot, always a pilot.
The pilot's putting his helmet on and Novak doesn't even have a suit?
They give em out for anything these days. Hee. They give those types of medals out in the real world too.
Back in the CIC? In what capacity?
Tigh's got a real eye patch now.
Tigh confesses about Ellen.
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Post by artemis on Nov 17, 2006 22:24:45 GMT -5
to explain more about what i meant about valkyrie being an interesting choice for the ship - wikipedia puts it this way: Etymology The word "valkyrie" comes from the Old Norse valkyrja (plural "valkyrur"), from the words "val" (slaughter) and "kyrja" (to choose). Literally the term means choosers of the slain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 17, 2006 22:25:26 GMT -5
So, what do you all think of the scene on the Cylon ship? With Lucy L telling the toaster to shoot her so she could experience the "beautiful/miraculous" thing between life and death?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 17, 2006 22:28:23 GMT -5
to explain more about what i meant about valkyrie being an interesting choice for the ship - wikipedia puts it this way: Etymology The word "valkyrie" comes from the Old Norse valkyrja (plural "valkyrur"), from the words "val" (slaughter) and "kyrja" (to choose). Literally the term means choosers of the slain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValkyrieInteresting! Ride of the Valkries and Apocalypse Now was what popped into my head. also from the article "The valkyries' purpose was to choose the most heroic of those who had died in battle."
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Post by Lola m on Nov 17, 2006 22:36:01 GMT -5
to explain more about what i meant about valkyrie being an interesting choice for the ship - wikipedia puts it this way: Etymology The word "valkyrie" comes from the Old Norse valkyrja (plural "valkyrur"), from the words "val" (slaughter) and "kyrja" (to choose). Literally the term means choosers of the slain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValkyrieVery appropriate, yes indeedy.
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Post by Sara on Nov 17, 2006 22:40:30 GMT -5
So, what do you all think of the scene on the Cylon ship? With Lucy L telling the toaster to shoot her so she could experience the "beautiful/miraculous" thing between life and death? I kept waiting for Kiefer Sutherland and Julia Roberts to show up with a crash cart.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 17, 2006 22:43:51 GMT -5
So, what do you all think of the scene on the Cylon ship? With Lucy L telling the toaster to shoot her so she could experience the "beautiful/miraculous" thing between life and death? I kept waiting for Kiefer Sutherland and Julia Roberts to show up with a crash cart. Oh yeah.
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Post by Sue on Nov 17, 2006 22:44:38 GMT -5
Well, maybe I shouldn't comment, since I'm not a huge fan of BSG to begin with but I read thru the thread to see what the rest of you thought.
I know it contained backstory which was designed to add more layers to Adama and his whole history and tortured soul, but..... it felt like filler to me. Filler and a chance to have on a well-known (genre) guest star...and then kick him off at the end of the ep.
Okay, thinking back it did serve to bring Sol back into the fold somewhat----allowing him to make some sort of peace with the horrible thing he had to do with Ellen.
Just----seemed slow and meandering to me. Not that every ep has to be a homerun.
The best part was admitting that when a war is started there is (at least usually) some sort of provocation on both sides. And, if it really did boil down to one man it wouldn't be Adama's fault it would be Bulldog's fault---for ejecting and surviving. How can Adama feel guilty for shooting down his friend (to avoid detection) AND guilty for starting the war at the same time??
And next week's preview also feels fillerish to me (altho the fight stuff is probably only a minor part).
I'll freely admit that this is most likely my problem, not the show's problem. This is why I never make it thru the LeGuin books. I need massive doses of PLOT moving forward. (Yes, that's also why I'm a Miles junkie.)
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 17, 2006 22:45:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Novak was Lucy Lawless's pet project like Kara was Leoben's.
I love the name Novak.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 17, 2006 22:55:16 GMT -5
Well, maybe I shouldn't comment, since I'm not a huge fan of BSG to begin with but I read thru the thread to see what the rest of you thought. I know it contained backstory which was designed to add more layers to Adama and his whole history and tortured soul, but.....it felt like filler to me. Filler and a chance to have on a well-known (genre) guest star...and then kick him off at the end of the ep. Okay, thinking back it did serve to bring Sol back into the fold somewhat----allowing him to make some sort of peace with the horrible thing he had to do with Ellen. Just----seemed slow and meandering to me. Not that every ep has to be a homerun. The best part was admitting that when a war is started there is (at least usually) some sort of provocation on both sides. And, if it really did boil down to one man it wouldn't be Adama's fault it would be Bulldog's fault---for ejecting and surviving. How can Adama feel guilty for shooting down his friend (to avoid detection) AND guilty for starting the war at the same time?? And next week's preview also feels fillerish to me (altho the fight stuff is probably only a minor part). I'll freely admit that this is most likely my problem, not the show's problem. This is why I never make it thru the LeGuin books. I need massive doses of PLOT moving forward. (Yes, that's also why I'm a Miles junkie.) To me these two things were HUGE and made a very satisfying episode. And there was also the Saul and Kara stuff too. A bit of closure for them. And the Lucy Lawless stuff. Moving pieces into position for whatever's next.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 17, 2006 23:03:16 GMT -5
So, what do you all think of the scene on the Cylon ship? With Lucy L telling the toaster to shoot her so she could experience the "beautiful/miraculous" thing between life and death? I kept waiting for Kiefer Sutherland and Julia Roberts to show up with a crash cart. #rofl1#
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Post by Lola m on Nov 17, 2006 23:05:54 GMT -5
Well, maybe I shouldn't comment, since I'm not a huge fan of BSG to begin with but I read thru the thread to see what the rest of you thought. I know it contained backstory which was designed to add more layers to Adama and his whole history and tortured soul, but.....it felt like filler to me. Filler and a chance to have on a well-known (genre) guest star...and then kick him off at the end of the ep. Okay, thinking back it did serve to bring Sol back into the fold somewhat----allowing him to make some sort of peace with the horrible thing he had to do with Ellen. Just----seemed slow and meandering to me. Not that every ep has to be a homerun. The best part was admitting that when a war is started there is (at least usually) some sort of provocation on both sides. And, if it really did boil down to one man it wouldn't be Adama's fault it would be Bulldog's fault---for ejecting and surviving. How can Adama feel guilty for shooting down his friend (to avoid detection) AND guilty for starting the war at the same time?? And next week's preview also feels fillerish to me (altho the fight stuff is probably only a minor part). I'll freely admit that this is most likely my problem, not the show's problem. This is why I never make it thru the LeGuin books. I need massive doses of PLOT moving forward. (Yes, that's also why I'm a Miles junkie.) To me these two things were HUGE and made a very satisfying episode. And there was also the Saul and Kara stuff too. A bit of closure for them. And the Lucy Lawless stuff. Moving pieces into position for whatever's next. I'm more in this camp as well. Very much an ep of . . . . bringing things together. Making connections and putting us in place for the next level of plottiness and so on. And I liked the linking of past to now to pointing to future.
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Post by Matthew on Nov 17, 2006 23:09:14 GMT -5
Going back a bit far.
Battlestar Valkyrie? Interesting 45 years in service?
Two raiders pursuing a third? Someone's pulled a Starbuck on a raider? yep. Lobotomized one, apparently.
Well, Starbuck, go to the door, and open it up.
Or just wait for him to drop out..
Dixon!!!
Some should REALLY go onboard that raider and make sure it's just a flying corpse..
He's Colonial military.
Who knows Adama.
Nice violins. What, no man-embrace?
"Bulldog"
41,421
Woohoo! on the "this ep previews!" I still don't know how I feel about them doing that. Drunken Tigh with a gun! shouldn't he have switched to a jaunty eyepatch by now?
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Post by Matthew on Nov 17, 2006 23:22:01 GMT -5
"Your mission, should you choose to accept it" The hell is this? Stealth ship? Flashback? Oh, yay. Cottle's still smoking... And this makes me wonder if this is the pilot that Adama was talking about with the whole "deniability" thing. Denny? Danny? Three years in a cell. "the institution no longer had anything to offer me, so I left" Oh, SHIT. He was on board the basestar that they looked at? No.... it's spread.. Three.. Insane three. ONE shot. huh. So how did he get out of the cage? A year prior to the attack on the colonies.. black ops mission with Adama.. Tauron colonists? Taurons drilling on a moon too close to the Cylon armistice line... had to stop ore drilling? Shot down by the Taurons? "Made a bad call" "He was dead. So I left." That's NOT Bill Adama. Something fishy here. And Roslin thnks so, too. "So you gonna tell me what really happened?" His mess, he'll fix it? What still needs fixing?! Way to build up trust with your buddy/boss/etc. THREE!!!!!! AAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whereinhell she come from? Oh, she's dreaming. Threesome with baltar and six? What the hell is Saul doing? And wow, lucid, too. Well, semi-lucid. Tigh's got secrets that gotta be kept. "You're equivocating" Saul may have a measure of salvation in the measure of damnation that Adama apparently has...
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Post by Matthew on Nov 17, 2006 23:35:09 GMT -5
Danny Novacek. Ellen.... "Drink" "No idea"
Apollo is gonna be clued in... to what?
Saul's let the cat out of the bag, whatever the cat is..
"Galactica was to be his graceful retirement"
!!!!!
Adama shot him down? To protect the mission? Well, THAT obviously frakked up.
"Ascertain the likeliehood of a cylon strike"
"Knew that they were out there?"
"theories"
So the cylons capture an agent provacateur, three years ago..
Admiralty snuck across the armistice line to gather intelligence?
and contact. Which shot him down..
TIGH advocating the Right Thing.....
SUNNUVABITCH.
"Sometimes surviving can be its own death sentence."
So this might have escalated things. Adama's gonna claim responsibility for the whole destruction of the colonies?
BULLSHIT. You went in to gather intelligence. you may have crossed the line, shown belligerence, perhaps but THEY shot first.
"One man."
"sometimes it only takes one"
Oh, fer pete's sake, Adama, pull your head out of your arse.
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