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Post by Lola m on Jan 21, 2007 23:32:27 GMT -5
So, D'anna went bye-bye. I wonder who she asked forgiveness of. She became a liability when she split from the group. She had developed a human consciousness, a self-awareness - whether or not it was the truth that she was the chosen was, just the fact that she had it made her more human than Cylon. Much like Sharon/Athena. She was dangerous because she was questioning too much, that's for sure. Not fitting in with the traditional Cylon plan would be my guess. And now we have a Caprica helping Sharon to escape. Plus, I wonder about the Leobens - they seem to know more than they are letting on to the others. And what about the hybrids? I wonder where they fit in. Lots of strife among the Cylons.
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Post by Karen on Jan 21, 2007 23:43:59 GMT -5
Nice intense scene between Helo and Roslin and Adama. "That's why you gave her the uniform." Roslin talking about a leap of faith and "if it only affected your family". Damn. He do not want to hear that from you, of all people! "I certainly played my part in bringing us to this point." Huh. Nicely conceded. And now they're all "in Sharon's hands". Sharon tells the bald truth. "They wouldn't let me see my daughter. So my husband shot me. It was the only way." So now we get to wonder how much of the next bit is true. About her daughter being safer there and her as well. My guess? Helo is totally right to trust her. Now, whether that means Adama and Roslin can expect she will always do just as they want? That's debatable. Planet planning! Crappity crap - now Dee's on her own! Nice how they are juxtaposing the three main human groups (Dee going after Starbuck, the folks fighting the Cylongs - Lee and Anders and so on, and Chief and his bunch at the temple) with the two Cylon groups (the "clankers" and the pairing of Deanna and Gaius). Interesting that the Deanna on the planet seems as uncertain as the one on the ship. Scared to find out if she is right, scared tha she might be wrong, scared to actually be right. I wanna shout at her - when Baltar is the one who is leading things? You're in trouble!!! ;D Plus, he's got his inner cylon pumping him up with all that "no you're the chosen one" stuff. D'anna was right to be scared - because it obviously made her mad and her brain bleed to see the 5. We really didn't find out who was a Cylon, unless I misse something.
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Post by lolanotreallyhere on Jan 22, 2007 8:24:19 GMT -5
Nice intense scene between Helo and Roslin and Adama. "That's why you gave her the uniform." Roslin talking about a leap of faith and "if it only affected your family". Damn. He do not want to hear that from you, of all people! "I certainly played my part in bringing us to this point." Huh. Nicely conceded. And now they're all "in Sharon's hands". Sharon tells the bald truth. "They wouldn't let me see my daughter. So my husband shot me. It was the only way." So now we get to wonder how much of the next bit is true. About her daughter being safer there and her as well. My guess? Helo is totally right to trust her. Now, whether that means Adama and Roslin can expect she will always do just as they want? That's debatable. Planet planning! Crappity crap - now Dee's on her own! Nice how they are juxtaposing the three main human groups (Dee going after Starbuck, the folks fighting the Cylongs - Lee and Anders and so on, and Chief and his bunch at the temple) with the two Cylon groups (the "clankers" and the pairing of Deanna and Gaius). Interesting that the Deanna on the planet seems as uncertain as the one on the ship. Scared to find out if she is right, scared tha she might be wrong, scared to actually be right. I wanna shout at her - when Baltar is the one who is leading things? You're in trouble!!! ;D Plus, he's got his inner cylon pumping him up with all that "no you're the chosen one" stuff. D'anna was right to be scared - because it obviously made her mad and her brain bleed to see the 5. We really didn't find out who was a Cylon, unless I misse something. Nope, I agree. We didn't find out about who the other Cylons are. And by having D'anna "turned off", they've shut down the one source of information about who they are. 'Cuz Baltar didn't see, did he? Well, not to mention that the humans have him now. ;D
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Post by Onjel on Jan 22, 2007 10:25:30 GMT -5
Slam bam action. The cylons jump out. Then all the humans make it back and they jump out. So, we're left with Baltar in the brig and Caprica heading there herself, no doubt. Kara in a clinch with Anders and Dee in a clinch (although she did not look happy at first) with Lee. And Lee and Kara mooning at each other over their respective spouses' shoulders. People! Just have a hot sweaty foursome and get it over, already! Huh. Well. That was a rather intriguing final bit. The nova happened before and is probably a signpost to Earth that apparently Starbuck was channeling through drawing since she was little and Leoben knew . . . something about this "destiny" thing. And the D'anna model is "flawed" and is going to be "boxed" indefinitely because she's just too much trouble. So, do we have any takers on the identity of one of the final five that D'Anna was talking to when she asked for forgiveness? With Starbuck drawing that eye of Jupiter symbol from childhood, it makes me wonder. . ..
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Post by Lola m on Jan 22, 2007 13:30:40 GMT -5
Slam bam action. The cylons jump out. Then all the humans make it back and they jump out. So, we're left with Baltar in the brig and Caprica heading there herself, no doubt. Kara in a clinch with Anders and Dee in a clinch (although she did not look happy at first) with Lee. And Lee and Kara mooning at each other over their respective spouses' shoulders. People! Just have a hot sweaty foursome and get it over, already! Huh. Well. That was a rather intriguing final bit. The nova happened before and is probably a signpost to Earth that apparently Starbuck was channeling through drawing since she was little and Leoben knew . . . something about this "destiny" thing. And the D'anna model is "flawed" and is going to be "boxed" indefinitely because she's just too much trouble. So, do we have any takers on the identity of one of the final five that D'Anna was talking to when she asked for forgiveness? With Starbuck drawing that eye of Jupiter symbol from childhood, it makes me wonder. . .. I'm trying to decide just how vital the "forgive me - I had no idea" part is. Does that mean we should be looking for someone that D'anna was particularly not nice to - or that D'anna in particular was not nice to? In other words, go back and look at humans that D'anna has interacted with specifically? Or does that just relate to anyone who is "human" and has thus been hurt by the war?
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Post by Onjel on Jan 22, 2007 13:41:25 GMT -5
So, do we have any takers on the identity of one of the final five that D'Anna was talking to when she asked for forgiveness? With Starbuck drawing that eye of Jupiter symbol from childhood, it makes me wonder. . .. I'm trying to decide just how vital the "forgive me - I had no idea" part is. Does that mean we should be looking for someone that D'anna was particularly not nice to - or that D'anna in particular was not nice to? In other words, go back and look at humans that D'anna has interacted with specifically? Or does that just relate to anyone who is "human" and has thus been hurt by the war? I was just going to post the same questions. I don't know. I find it hard to believe that she would be asking forgiveness for what the Cylons have done to humans in general, but if the face she saw is that of a human representative of the group, then. . .. I just don't know.
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Post by Onjel on Jan 22, 2007 13:51:18 GMT -5
I wanna know what the Final Five look like and I wanna know now!!!!
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Post by Sara on Jan 25, 2007 16:07:47 GMT -5
I can't help it. Does every show have to revolve around a "chosen one"? It sure seems that way. Wow - Caprica snapped Boomer's neck. Is that the first Cylon/Cylon murder?Who do you think is going to die, be a Cylon and what was the other thing that was supposed to happen? Poor Kara's hands. How ironic is it that Dee was the one who had to rescue her? I think Dee is going to be the one to die. Oh, heck no. Just off the top of my head I can remember Caprica Six killing D'Anna in the all-Cylon episode last year and Cavil shooting Caprica Six right between the eyes in the second episode of this season.
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Post by Sara on Jan 25, 2007 16:11:39 GMT -5
I wanna know what the Final Five look like and I wanna know now!!!! You probably already know what they look like; you just don't know you do.
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Post by Sara on Jan 25, 2007 16:13:27 GMT -5
It sure seems that way. Wow - Caprica snapped Boomer's neck. Is that the first Cylon/Cylon murder? We had a lot of Cylon on Cylon crime in this ep, didn't we? I have this hope that Dee will be OK. I'm getting very fond of her - I really liked how she handled things in this ep. Dee rocks. Sam rocks. They need to dump their spouses and hook up.
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Post by Matthew on Jan 25, 2007 16:25:54 GMT -5
It sure seems that way. Wow - Caprica snapped Boomer's neck. Is that the first Cylon/Cylon murder?Who do you think is going to die, be a Cylon and what was the other thing that was supposed to happen? Poor Kara's hands. How ironic is it that Dee was the one who had to rescue her? I think Dee is going to be the one to die. Oh, heck no. Just off the top of my head I can remember Caprica Six killing D'Anna in the all-Cylon episode last year and Cavil shooting Caprica Six right between the eyes in the second episode of this season. There's a remarkable increase in cylon-on-cylon violence. Won't someone please think of the little baby toasters?
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Post by Onjel on Jan 25, 2007 16:37:27 GMT -5
I wanna know what the Final Five look like and I wanna know now!!!! You probably already know what they look like; you just don't know you do. Good point. Let me rephrase: I want to know if the final five match in appearance any of the people we have already seen who we think of as human. Better?
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Post by Sara on Jan 25, 2007 16:45:42 GMT -5
So, D'anna went bye-bye. I wonder who she asked forgiveness of. She became a liability when she split from the group. She had developed a human consciousness, a self-awareness - whether or not it was the truth that she was the chosen was, just the fact that she had it made her more human than Cylon. Much like Sharon/Athena. She was dangerous because she was questioning too much, that's for sure. Not fitting in with the traditional Cylon plan would be my guess. And now we have a Caprica helping Sharon to escape. Plus, I wonder about the Leobens - they seem to know more than they are letting on to the others. And what about the hybrids? I wonder where they fit in. Lots of strife among the Cylons. And in D'Anna's case, it wasn't just one D'Anna model exhibiting too much individuality—it was all of them. For example, it now seems pretty clear that Boomer Sharon doesn't have the same depth of humanity as Athena Sharon. Nor does she exhibit Athena's sense of loyalty toward the Galactica and its crew. The two share a lot of similarities in their personalities, but Athena Sharon is so far pretty unique for her model. All of the D'Annas, however, tended toward displaying the savior-complex. So it seems as if as long as it was just the occassional iteration going rogue the remaining models had no problem interacting with others of the rogue model; that's the kind of... malfunction that could be written off as a result of spending too much time with humans. But when all of the iterations have the exact same problem, it's no longer a matter just a screw getting knocked loose: then you're talking a design flaw. Of course, you know what the beauty of the retiring the model thing is? If we presume the other Cylons destroy all of the hardware, then if they ever do decide to re-upload Three it could be into an entirely different body—meaning Three's return isn't dependent on getting Lucy Lawless back.
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Post by Sara on Jan 25, 2007 16:50:27 GMT -5
You probably already know what they look like; you just don't know you do. Good point. Let me rephrase: I want to know if the final five match in appearance any of the people we have already seen who we think of as human. Better? Yes, much.
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Post by Lola m on Jan 25, 2007 22:51:47 GMT -5
Oh, heck no. Just off the top of my head I can remember Caprica Six killing D'Anna in the all-Cylon episode last year and Cavil shooting Caprica Six right between the eyes in the second episode of this season. There's a remarkable increase in cylon-on-cylon violence. Won't someone please think of the little baby toasters? **weeps for the poor little single slicers**
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