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Post by Lola m on Feb 15, 2009 22:15:10 GMT -5
Couple of LJ links that are helping me sort through all the OMGWTFTMIBBQ!-ness of BSG lately: asta77's take on the info we were given in this ep and daygloparker made a diagram. ;D I need a diagram for this whole freakin' series because my brain has been on scramble-watch since the last half of this season has started. I think best with visuals. Oh, diagram! Nice! And funny. ;D Only thing missing from it is the nuclear explosion on Earth that wiped out the first cylons and that caused the first final 5 to run off to stop it happening again . . .
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Post by Lola m on Feb 15, 2009 22:17:07 GMT -5
Couple of LJ links that are helping me sort through all the OMGWTFTMIBBQ!-ness of BSG lately: asta77's take on the info we were given in this ep and daygloparker made a diagram. ;D I need a diagram for this whole freakin' series because my brain has been on scramble-watch since the last half of this season has started. I think best with visuals. Very helpful. Here is the twop recaplet summary by Jacob. If I actually have this straight: Thirteen Tribes set out from Kobol, and the Thirteenth (Cylons) settled on Earth, where they stopped resurrecting and had babies instead. They created robots, I think, who went crazy on them and threw them a big old war just like ours did. Luckily, a group of five scientist-types were able to rediscover resurrection technology, and download themselves into new bodies at the moment of their holocaust. (After being warned by mysterious and invisible Sexy Chip People, no less.) Tory and Galen were the hot young couple, Saul and Ellen were the hot old couple, and Sam was apparently like what if Bob Dylan hung out with Watson and Crick. So they took a sublight voyage backwards along Athena's Arrow, to find the other Tribes and tell them in no uncertain terms, Do Not Fuck With Robots.
Sadly, the robots did not go unfucked with. The F5 got here too late, but forged the Armistice out of promises to help the Centurions create skinjobs. This they did: eight humanoid models, to further the toasters' goal of becoming more like their creators (as seen in the whole Hybrid lineage). Yes, I did say eight models. For a total of thirteen, at the fulcrum point of which is Seven, a model named Daniel that never made it off the production floor (except for the one that knocked up Socrata Thrace, I will bet you one trillion dollars) because Cavil, the firstborn son, was jealous of him in an insane Biblical grabbing-the-foot kinda way. Then he murdered and boxed the F5, and released them every few years into the population until the holocaust was ready to go. Which is where we came in.
The reason that Cavil is such a dick, though, is because he resents the Five, particularly Ellen, for creating him in such an old, creepy body. They seem to agree that the F5 made the human bodies and weird hormonal imbalances we've grown to love in the Significant Seven because the One True God would approve of that -- but then also, the OTG seems to have been invented by the Centurions in the first place, which makes no sense. Even Chief finds that weird, so I'm sure there's more to it. (Like, maybe a whole series coming to your screen fairly soon, with a writing staff including but not limited to Jane, the wonderful fellow who wrote this episode, and Michael Taylor.) So Brother John Cavil gives a fairly moving and convincing speech for why he's so pissed off, and you finally get Cavil: he's basically like Pinocchio going, "Really? Lederhosen? Fuckin' forever?" Only instead of singing a little song about it and kicking Ellen in her shapely Gepetto shins, he knowingly and nastily:
Destroyed utterly the life and civilizations on twelve planets, burnt the knowledge of their creators out of his brothers and sisters, killed Daniel and boxed Three, wiped and boxed the Final Five just to make sure they ended up in the holocaust, had a day-long conversation with Chief about how he wasn't a Cylon even though he totally was, tried his best to kill off the idea of God(s) Himself(s), plucked out his father's eyeball, and fucked his own mother while she was in mortal mode on New Caprica. Moral of story? You Never Fuck With Pinocchio. Welcome to the last act of the last season of the very best TV show of all time, and here's your Dramamine.Heeeeee!! And also? Excellent good summary, actually. ;D
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 15, 2009 23:34:15 GMT -5
There was this tv series on the Sci Fi channel in like the early to mid 90s that was about these clones on a space ship. They were cloned from people on Earth and were sort of a last resort effort to prevent the human race from dying out. If anything were to happen to Earth, then they would be revived from suspended animation and return to Earth to restart human civilization. All the backstory in this episode is sort of making me think about that show.
I can't for the life of me remember the name of the show, though, nor can I find it on imdb. I think I remember that was supported by Leonard Nimoy, and it probably only only lasted a couple of episodes (I think I only watched 2 at most). Has anyone else ever heard of this show or have any idea what I'm talking about?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 16, 2009 17:12:58 GMT -5
One of the comments to Mo Ryan's review of the episode has a very extensive list of all facts and figures. It's the one by Adam Whitehead and it's about the 40th comment. I think it's another good resource. (NOTE: There are a few mild spoilers for Caprica, like noting that certain topics that will explored in that show rather than this one, so proceed with caution if you're spoiler averse.) I am wondering whether some of the number discrepancies (the dates of the different Exoduses and distance between Earth and Kobol for example) are just going to be goofs or mistakes that Ron Moore is going to make into part of his brilliant plan.
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