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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Sept 12, 2012 16:21:48 GMT -5
Got a flat tire today. I went for *years* without any flat tires, and now I've had 3 since I started med school. They're intimidated now. That's why. |
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Post by Queen E on Sept 12, 2012 16:38:37 GMT -5
Avocado is right out since I'm deathly allergic. We drink fortified water during workouts or else protein drinks. Not worried about appetite suppression so much since I'm not on the weight-loss trail. I've lost at least 3 other people over the years and each time I've gained back the pounds plus more. This is for health and feelgoodism. If I trim up--great. If not, don't really care. Trainer kept asking me what my "goals" were. The question's meaningless. I don't care what my size is. My weight can and does fluctuate as much as 30 pounds up or down that I'm never the same size from day to day. I've lived with for so long that I keep different size clothes so that there will always be something that fits. I'm perfectly comfortable in my skin regardless which way I'm going at the time. "Well, what size to you want to be?"
"I'm 5'2". That's a satisfactory size."
"I mean what dress size"
"From which manufacturer?"
"I mean how much do you want to weigh?"
"Whatever I'm weighing at the moment is fine."
*frustrated sigh* "I mean what do you want to accomplish here?"
"I want to be healthy, strong and to feel good."
*second frustrated sigh, this time accompanied with 'sad eyes'* "I have to fill out the questionnaire. That's what the question says."
*me, smiling* "Just write down what I said. I'm happy with any dress size, whatever it may be. I don't care what the scale says since it doesn't measure my health. I just want to be healthy, to be strong and to feel as good as possible. If your bosses aren't happy with that have them come and talk to me, because there isn't anything more."
*third frustrated sigh; she began writing* She absolutely couldn't get it. I had a similar experience about 15 years ago, when I started worrying about osteoperosis, because my mom had trouble with it. I joined my employer's health/fitness gym and filled out a questionnaire about what I wanted - which was to get some guidance on how to use weights to help combat bone loss. I could not have been clearer about why I was joining. I went to orientation with some others, and they weighed and measured us and measured our body fat and such. We were again questioned about goals, and I again said that I was there to learn how to use exercise/weights to combat bone loss. Anyhow, at the end of the orientation, we all got a print out of personalized plans. I got a print out that said I should lose 20 lbs, and was all about how I could lose those 20 lbs. There was NOT ONE WORD about weight training or osteoperosis prevention. I complained, and the young lady just "could not get it," as you said. She said that these were my results, per the computer, and this was what I would need to do for optimum health. I kept at it until I got some halfhearted advice from my assigned "personal trainer," who continued to push the printout. As you can imagine, I didn't last there long. I will always remember the young woman - a beautiful, healthy young woman who didn't look a pound overweight - who cried because the computer hadn't ranked her in the highest health ranking. It was just sad. It was like those printouts were handed down from Mount Sinai or something. The place had a "cult-like" atmosphere, and I just wasn't going to drink the sugar-free kool-aid. I had a similar experience, too, but at Weight Watchers. The group leader had a chart, and the chart apparently said that for my height, my goal weight should be 136. I told her that would be impossible for my frame, but she thought I was just being negative. I told her that when I was 14 and skinny, I weighed 135, and had grown 6 inches since then. Nope, 136 should be my goal. Now, for those of you who have met me, and met our Rachael, we are within an inch of each other in height. However, Rachael's frame is TOTALLY different from mine; she has a small frame, not unlike Amy Acker. I have a LARGE frame: broad shoulders, heavy skeletal structure, size 11 to 12 feet, and muscular calves. A healthy weight for me is between 180 and 200 pounds, easily. Now, I'm standing in front of this woman. She can see it all for herself. Worse, we all worked for a medical society. But no matter what I said, even when I told her that 136 pounds would basically equal anorexia for me, she would not budge. Needless to say, I didn't go back either. |
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Sept 12, 2012 17:48:11 GMT -5
I had a similar experience about 15 years ago, when I started worrying about osteoperosis, because my mom had trouble with it. I joined my employer's health/fitness gym and filled out a questionnaire about what I wanted - which was to get some guidance on how to use weights to help combat bone loss. I could not have been clearer about why I was joining. I went to orientation with some others, and they weighed and measured us and measured our body fat and such. We were again questioned about goals, and I again said that I was there to learn how to use exercise/weights to combat bone loss. Anyhow, at the end of the orientation, we all got a print out of personalized plans. I got a print out that said I should lose 20 lbs, and was all about how I could lose those 20 lbs. There was NOT ONE WORD about weight training or osteoperosis prevention. I complained, and the young lady just "could not get it," as you said. She said that these were my results, per the computer, and this was what I would need to do for optimum health. I kept at it until I got some halfhearted advice from my assigned "personal trainer," who continued to push the printout. As you can imagine, I didn't last there long. I will always remember the young woman - a beautiful, healthy young woman who didn't look a pound overweight - who cried because the computer hadn't ranked her in the highest health ranking. It was just sad. It was like those printouts were handed down from Mount Sinai or something. The place had a "cult-like" atmosphere, and I just wasn't going to drink the sugar-free kool-aid. I had a similar experience, too, but at Weight Watchers. The group leader had a chart, and the chart apparently said that for my height, my goal weight should be 136. I told her that would be impossible for my frame, but she thought I was just being negative. I told her that when I was 14 and skinny, I weighed 135, and had grown 6 inches since then. Nope, 136 should be my goal. Now, for those of you who have met me, and met our Rachael, we are within an inch of each other in height. However, Rachael's frame is TOTALLY different from mine; she has a small frame, not unlike Amy Acker. I have a LARGE frame: broad shoulders, heavy skeletal structure, size 11 to 12 feet, and muscular calves. A healthy weight for me is between 180 and 200 pounds, easily. Now, I'm standing in front of this woman. She can see it all for herself. Worse, we all worked for a medical society. But no matter what I said, even when I told her that 136 pounds would basically equal anorexia for me, she would not budge. Needless to say, I didn't go back either. It's true, Erin, you are more warrior than waif. Personally, I love that you move so easily and gracefully. My bff Deb is your height and build, but her bone structure could handle some ... a LOT ... of toning. It shows in her stiff movements and obvious discomfort. At 135 she'd be a skeleton, but if we could get her to 180-220 she'd be a goddess--like you. Me, it's not build it's metabolism. Mine's never going to get me to the 140-150 that would suit me best. I no longer care. I want to move like you do. I want to stop hurting. I want to be healthy and strong. |
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Sept 12, 2012 18:43:07 GMT -5
I had a similar experience, too, but at Weight Watchers. The group leader had a chart, and the chart apparently said that for my height, my goal weight should be 136. I told her that would be impossible for my frame, but she thought I was just being negative. I told her that when I was 14 and skinny, I weighed 135, and had grown 6 inches since then. Nope, 136 should be my goal. Now, for those of you who have met me, and met our Rachael, we are within an inch of each other in height. However, Rachael's frame is TOTALLY different from mine; she has a small frame, not unlike Amy Acker. I have a LARGE frame: broad shoulders, heavy skeletal structure, size 11 to 12 feet, and muscular calves. A healthy weight for me is between 180 and 200 pounds, easily. Now, I'm standing in front of this woman. She can see it all for herself. Worse, we all worked for a medical society. But no matter what I said, even when I told her that 136 pounds would basically equal anorexia for me, she would not budge. Needless to say, I didn't go back either. It's true, Erin, you are more warrior than waif. Personally, I love that you move so easily and gracefully. My bff Deb is your height and build, but her bone structure could handle some ... a LOT ... of toning. It shows in her stiff movements and obvious discomfort. At 135 she'd be a skeleton, but if we could get her to 180-220 she'd be a goddess--like you. Me, it's not build it's metabolism. Mine's never going to get me to the 140-150 that would suit me best. I no longer care. I want to move like you do. I want to stop hurting. I want to be healthy and strong. Diane, I am very proud of you, and I hope your new exercise program helps a lot. Erin, you are awesome, and a goddess of awesomeness. |
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Post by Queen E on Sept 12, 2012 18:50:55 GMT -5
I had a similar experience, too, but at Weight Watchers. The group leader had a chart, and the chart apparently said that for my height, my goal weight should be 136. I told her that would be impossible for my frame, but she thought I was just being negative. I told her that when I was 14 and skinny, I weighed 135, and had grown 6 inches since then. Nope, 136 should be my goal. Now, for those of you who have met me, and met our Rachael, we are within an inch of each other in height. However, Rachael's frame is TOTALLY different from mine; she has a small frame, not unlike Amy Acker. I have a LARGE frame: broad shoulders, heavy skeletal structure, size 11 to 12 feet, and muscular calves. A healthy weight for me is between 180 and 200 pounds, easily. Now, I'm standing in front of this woman. She can see it all for herself. Worse, we all worked for a medical society. But no matter what I said, even when I told her that 136 pounds would basically equal anorexia for me, she would not budge. Needless to say, I didn't go back either. It's true, Erin, you are more warrior than waif. Personally, I love that you move so easily and gracefully. My bff Deb is your height and build, but her bone structure could handle some ... a LOT ... of toning. It shows in her stiff movements and obvious discomfort. At 135 she'd be a skeleton, but if we could get her to 180-220 she'd be a goddess--like you. Me, it's not build it's metabolism. Mine's never going to get me to the 140-150 that would suit me best. I no longer care. I want to move like you do. I want to stop hurting. I want to be healthy and strong. You know what? We should start a movement. Seriously. Healthy and strong should be the ONLY goal. I think we need to always keep that in the forefront of our minds. Healthy and strong and in our infinite variety. Thank you for reminding me what's important. Sometimes it's hard for me to live inside my own skin and not judge myself, particularly since the rest of my family is, at best, at least 5 inches shorter than I am. Gulliver among the Lilliputians, that's me.  |
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Post by Queen E on Sept 12, 2012 18:51:35 GMT -5
It's true, Erin, you are more warrior than waif. Personally, I love that you move so easily and gracefully. My bff Deb is your height and build, but her bone structure could handle some ... a LOT ... of toning. It shows in her stiff movements and obvious discomfort. At 135 she'd be a skeleton, but if we could get her to 180-220 she'd be a goddess--like you. Me, it's not build it's metabolism. Mine's never going to get me to the 140-150 that would suit me best. I no longer care. I want to move like you do. I want to stop hurting. I want to be healthy and strong. Diane, I am very proud of you, and I hope your new exercise program helps a lot. Erin, you are awesome, and a goddess of awesomeness.  |
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Sept 12, 2012 20:46:48 GMT -5
I had a similar experience about 15 years ago, when I started worrying about osteoperosis, because my mom had trouble with it. I joined my employer's health/fitness gym and filled out a questionnaire about what I wanted - which was to get some guidance on how to use weights to help combat bone loss. I could not have been clearer about why I was joining. I went to orientation with some others, and they weighed and measured us and measured our body fat and such. We were again questioned about goals, and I again said that I was there to learn how to use exercise/weights to combat bone loss. Anyhow, at the end of the orientation, we all got a print out of personalized plans. I got a print out that said I should lose 20 lbs, and was all about how I could lose those 20 lbs. There was NOT ONE WORD about weight training or osteoperosis prevention. I complained, and the young lady just "could not get it," as you said. She said that these were my results, per the computer, and this was what I would need to do for optimum health. I kept at it until I got some halfhearted advice from my assigned "personal trainer," who continued to push the printout. As you can imagine, I didn't last there long. I will always remember the young woman - a beautiful, healthy young woman who didn't look a pound overweight - who cried because the computer hadn't ranked her in the highest health ranking. It was just sad. It was like those printouts were handed down from Mount Sinai or something. The place had a "cult-like" atmosphere, and I just wasn't going to drink the sugar-free kool-aid. I had a similar experience, too, but at Weight Watchers. The group leader had a chart, and the chart apparently said that for my height, my goal weight should be 136. I told her that would be impossible for my frame, but she thought I was just being negative. I told her that when I was 14 and skinny, I weighed 135, and had grown 6 inches since then. Nope, 136 should be my goal. Now, for those of you who have met me, and met our Rachael, we are within an inch of each other in height. However, Rachael's frame is TOTALLY different from mine; she has a small frame, not unlike Amy Acker. I have a LARGE frame: broad shoulders, heavy skeletal structure, size 11 to 12 feet, and muscular calves. A healthy weight for me is between 180 and 200 pounds, easily. Now, I'm standing in front of this woman. She can see it all for herself. Worse, we all worked for a medical society. But no matter what I said, even when I told her that 136 pounds would basically equal anorexia for me, she would not budge. Needless to say, I didn't go back either. I'm way shorter than you and Rachel, but also am ridiculously busty (like, right now about 20% of my body weight is breast tissue) and carry substantial muscle weight. At my lightest, which was just under 190 (living on coffee and cigarettes, and prone to every virus in the world), I wore a 13 junior dress (and size 18 jeans that flapped around my waist and pinched my hips). I'm 40 pounds heavier now and wear size 20 jeans which are still too big around the waist. Using weight per se to measure health or fitness is stupid, and yet it persists. Julia, I never weigh myself anymore except at the doctor's office because I get all crazy when I get involved with scales. |
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Sept 12, 2012 20:52:49 GMT -5
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Sept 12, 2012 22:07:44 GMT -5
It's true, Erin, you are more warrior than waif. Personally, I love that you move so easily and gracefully. My bff Deb is your height and build, but her bone structure could handle some ... a LOT ... of toning. It shows in her stiff movements and obvious discomfort. At 135 she'd be a skeleton, but if we could get her to 180-220 she'd be a goddess--like you. Me, it's not build it's metabolism. Mine's never going to get me to the 140-150 that would suit me best. I no longer care. I want to move like you do. I want to stop hurting. I want to be healthy and strong. You know what? We should start a movement. Seriously. Healthy and strong should be the ONLY goal. I think we need to always keep that in the forefront of our minds. Healthy and strong and in our infinite variety. Thank you for reminding me what's important. Sometimes it's hard for me to live inside my own skin and not judge myself, particularly since the rest of my family is, at best, at least 5 inches shorter than I am. Gulliver among the Lilliputians, that's me. Well, if you're Gulliver among the Lilliputians, I'm Gulliver in Brobignag. I'll join your movement if we include self-acceptance in the manifesto. Too many insecure people out there. WE ARE ALL WORTHWHILE JUST THE WAY WE ARE! There. I feel better. |
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Sept 12, 2012 22:10:53 GMT -5
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Sept 12, 2012 22:12:13 GMT -5
Anybody see Das Rhinegold? Anybody watch Die Walkure on PBS? These productions are AWESOME!
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Post by Sue on Sept 13, 2012 8:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by Sue on Sept 13, 2012 8:37:26 GMT -5
Having port installed tomorrow. But am on 3rd week of dry cough. Must be allergies? But it's annoying and I need to not have an infection. Vibes please? Also: I adopt Diane's manifesto: I am 60, 200 pounds* and spend more on healthcare than the average person. But I am a contributing member of society who works at improving lives around me and certainly not making the world a worse place: I rock! [And I try hard not to "judge lest I be judged" -- and the hardest people not to judge are the judgers -- if you know what I mean. There is a lot of irony in the moderate Islamic community saying "don't blame us all for the actions of a few crazies" when, of course, that is exactly what the crazies did in targeting anyone other than the person who actually made the movie that offended them (not that he would deserve death either). But, of course, even if it is ironic it is still true. Of course, if this was targeted payback that is almost easier to understand. Still horrific of course. So very very glad Allison is back from the middle east. EDIT: that is 60 YEARS and 200 POUNDS. NOT: 60,200 pounds.  |
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Post by Sue on Sept 13, 2012 9:31:12 GMT -5
Don't you just love it when you covet yucca plants and your thumb gets freakish?
[Sometimes the randomness of real life feels as random as the random phrase generator. Allison goes to the middle east and returns safely while Carolyn has a random accident while biking (and may I just say I don't believe I saw one biker out of hundreds in Chicago last week wearing a helmut while exhibiting all sorts of unsafe behavior.]
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Sept 13, 2012 9:41:35 GMT -5
#wavey#
#grouphug#
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