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Post by Pixi on Jul 18, 2006 15:49:25 GMT -5
Per Erin's request:
Cast of VM - Season 3
Veronica, Logan, Keith, Wallace, Dick, Weevil
New cast members: Mac and Lamb are now regulars
Appearances by: Charisma Carpenter will appear in at least one episode next season
Added to the cast - a new boy and new girl.
One playing Wallace's roommate and one playing Mac's roommate.
Hmmm - I can't recall the names right now of the new cast members characters. One begins with a P.
As for the gang (as in Cliff, etc) no specific info but I'm hoping he'll be around as Veronica will be living at home and helping with the agency still.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 22, 2006 12:17:35 GMT -5
More juicy confirmed Season 3 stuff from the VM panel event!Kristin Veitch's recap of the VM panel at the TCA event: Again, in a super rush to get to The CW red carpet, which starts now! Here's what you need to know from the Veronica session for now: The first mystery will last nine episodes, the second mystery will last for seven and the third will last for six. They will each play out in uninterrupted blocks, with no repeats and no preemptions. The personal character arcs however are not going to be split up, of course. They won't stop and start according to the mysteries. The personal storylines, such as the relationship between Logan and Veronica, will play out as usual throughout the course of the whole season. Tina Majorino (Mac) will be a series regular, although she won't appear in all the episodes. She will be attending Hearst College along with Veronica, Wallace, Logan and Dick! There will be an explanation of how Logan and Dick ended up at Hearst. Veronica will continue to live at home with Keith. There will be two new series regulars, as we reported before: Stosh Piznarski and Parker. "Piz" is named after the director of the Veronica pilot, Mark Piznarski! Parker will be Mac's roommate and she is everything that Mac is not. "She will be bubbly and effervescent and listen to a lot of Nelly Furtado in the room," Thomas said. "And they won't hit it off right away, but she'll have a heart of gold will probably win Mac over." Interesting fact: after Stephen King's high praise of Veronica Mars, Rob did attempt to get Stephen on the show (just as he did with Kevin Smith), but received a very polite decline, saying he was already booked, but to keep him in mind for stuff in the future. "If you say you like 'Veronica Mars,' there's a good chance you'll be asked to be on it," Thomas said. Charisma Carpenter will be back for "at least one episode." But Rob didn't want to give away more than that on that subject. He said the whole briefcase thing does not have to do with the first 9 episode mystery, and will be wrapped up in episode two. Re: Teddy Dunn, he is not returning to the show this year. That decision was really made by fan response to Veronica's two possible love interests. One of the love interests seemed to get much more attention, and seemed to really win out... [ Hmmmmmmm, I wonder which one that was. ] *********** Wooo! Tina will be a regular. OMG Logan and Dick going to Hearst too! and things sound good for LoVe. *rejoices* I can't wait.. I've never been this emotionally invested in a show before!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 22, 2006 12:27:19 GMT -5
Copied from here. From ifmagazine.com/new.asp?article=3159:As for what to expect in Season 3, Thomas reveals that Logan and Veronica will be together at the beginning of the season and all the remaining strands of Season Two will be wrapped up in the first two episodes. Veronica and her friends will also be heading off to college which opens the door for a whole new palette of storytelling. "Veronica is going to still be living at home, and the detective agency will still be open," says Thomas. "And we will see Charisma Carpenter right away in the series. I don't want to give away a lot more than that, but Charisma Carpenter will be in the show at least once." From featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2006/07/when_the_cw_ses.html:The note from the network, he said, was to make the show less complex, and he said he realized Season 2, though he was proud of it, was just way too complicated. Part of that was because of he introduced a complicated Logan storyline to give Kristen Bell some time off during the week. Keith Mars will still be a big part of the show because Veronica's going to live and home and still help her dad out with his detective agency. It doesn't sound like there was any other major news, aside from Dick Casablancas getting into Hearst (that will be explained, Thomas said). And Charisma Carpenter will be back at the start of the season. (By way, I spoke to Alyson Hannigan at the CBS party on Saturday and she said she'd be happy to return to "Veronica Mars" but no guest spots have been booked for her on the show at the moment.) Lewis Black will probably be guesting on the show as a college professor who does experiments regarding prisoner abuse. Logan and Wallace, who are taking the class, take part in the experiments because their other option is to write a long essay, and they don't want to do that. In episode three, we'll see Weevil again, he'll just have gotten out of prison, but not for what he did to the guy who died in the stadium blast. He's working at a car wash as a mandated post-prison job and he eventually loses his job and he needs Veronica's help. And not surprisingly, he ends up with a job a Hearst. They're trying to get Patty Hearst, who said she loves the show, on "Veronica Mars" as – get this – a board member at Hearst College. And I don't know if Thomas was joking or not, but he said they'd actually discussed a story idea – what if Hearst got kidnapped? As far as Veronica's transformation as a high school girl, Thomas said, "she'll have to lose some of that outsider baggage. Whereas Neptune High School was very rigidly divided [along class lines] .. that chip on her shoulder will be lessened. There will be other interesting social situations we can put her in." The first ongoing-mystery arc is about the rapist at Hearst College. In the second episode of the season, one of the girls who was raped, it turns out the night she was raped she went to a sorority rush party. So Veronica goes undercover during sorority rush. "So we'll still have situations where she'll feel out of place." Thomas wants to bring back Alia Shawkat and Michael Cera from "Arrested Development," but nothing is definite yet and Cera booked a movie, but they still hope they can bring both actors back (especially Alia for around episodes 5,6 and/or 7). The second mystery was largely inspired by Steven Soderbergh's "Bubble." "All the creative energy [for that movie] felt like it went into the setup and motives," Thomas said. "The nice thing is, the second mystery, we've got these first nine episodes to lay in" the groundwork of what happens in arc two.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 22, 2006 13:13:38 GMT -5
Seattle Times (TV Addict Goes To Hollywood) (link includes spoilers for other shows including Gilmore Girls, so be warned): Men are from "Mars," and we like 'em that way Logan (Jason Dohring) and Dick Casblancas (Ryan Hansen) from "Veronica Mars" were possibly drunk enough at the CW party for me to not believe anything they said. But it's also possible they were not drunk, and merely effusive. They did seem extremely happy to see each other — bear hugs, giggles, secrets — after the summer hiatus. In any case, here's what they told me about the new season of "Veronica Mars": Dick's mom pulls strings with a "family connection" to get him into college with the rest of the gang. "An Austrian connection," Dohring added inexplicably. Why would Dick even want to go to college? "Girls," Hansen said. "Parties. And he has nothing else to do." "It will be interesting to see how the big men on campus do when they get to college," Dohring said. "I kind of hope they get picked on a little." Dohring volunteered the information that Dick has a Speedo scene in an early episode. Seriously? "I just found out about it," Hansen said. "I haven't been working out or anything." Honestly, I have no idea.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 28, 2006 10:27:58 GMT -5
Comic-Con 2006: IGN Interviews Veronica Mars Creator Rob ThomasAn exclusive chat about what's to come in season 3 for the teenage detective. by Eric Goldman July 26, 2006 - In its two years on the air, Veronica Mars has established itself as one of the best series on television, thanks to a combination of clever, witty, and often dark writing, and the excellent performances of actors like Kristen Bell, Enrico Colantoni and Jason Dohring. While Veronica still struggles in the ratings, it maintains a passionately devoted audience and the well-deserved adoration of critics, who have come to truly love the show and its noirish twists and turns. Shortly before he joined his cast on stage, to the explosive cheers of several thousand members of that aforementioned extremely loyal fanbase, Veronica Mars creator/executive producer Rob Thomas sat down with me for an exclusive talk with IGN TV. We discussed the show moving to The CW this fall -- behind new lead-in Gilmore Girls -- and where season 3 will take Veronica, her father, and her friends, as she leaves high school behind and ventures into the world of college life. IGN TV: You guys just started filming this week. How are things going so far? Rob Thomas: So far, so good! IGN TV: Obviously, with this new launch on a new network, you have the opportunity to get new viewers. With the season premiere, how much are you picking up plot threads from last season and how much are you introducing the character and her situation to new viewers? Thomas: Honestly, this year we're trying to start with a clean slate. We're trying to really invite new viewers to the show. So we wanted episode one this year to not rely much on past knowledge. The one thing we are continuing on is, we had that mini-cliffhanger last year with Keith opening up the briefcase and then standing up Veronica at the airport. We will answer that question in the first two episodes; what was in the briefcase, why didn't Keith show up. Other then that, we're just going to try to very quickly tell the new audience Veronica does these detective-ing things - you know, Wallace is going to explain to somebody else in the show, "Well, this is how she ended up like this," and then we're going to try to hit the ground running without much reliance on much past knowledge. That mythology will always exist, and we'll make reference to it from time to time, but we don't want a new viewer to come in and say, "Oh, I'm missing too much." We need new viewers, so we're not going to try to lose them. Also, in this first episode… I don't think it's our biggest mystery of the year. I pretty self-consciously knew, okay, for a lot of Gilmore Girls fans, this is going to be their first look at Veronica Mars. And so, you'll notice the show actually will start off very sort of breezy, and chattery and funny… IGN TV: ...And suddenly her mom will be back? Thomas: [Laughs] That's not happening! But all the big, what you consider, more Veronica Mars plot twists happen at the end of the show. I really… It's like I want to grab people from Gilmore Girls and say, "You'll like this too!" We need those fans. IGN TV: Where you thinking about that last year, even with the finale? Obviously she's graduating, and that was going to naturally happen. But in terms of having Harry Hamlin's character get killed, and sort of closing the chapter on some of the high school storylines? Thomas: It really wasn't that conscious in terms of closing those chapters, so we wouldn't have to play them next year. Honestly it was all about… the things that drive us a lot in the writers room is that question of, "Wouldn't it be cool if…?" Whatever the answer to that question is, that we all agree on, is sort of where the show takes us. But in retrospect, I'm glad that we've sort of closed those chapters. It's not as though these characters existed in a vacuum though, so Dick Casablancas is starting the year pretty freaked out about where he is, and for most of the first episode, when you see him, he's out of his skull drunk. He's not adapting well to this new world. And same thing with Mac. She's not ready to talk to boys, you know? I mean on the night that she expected to lose her virginity, her boyfriend runs off with all of her clothes and then dives off the top of a building. That's about as bad a loss of virginity story as you can have! She was already a little leery in that particular arena anyway, and so she's still a little gun shy as we start the next year. IGN TV: Can you say at all how Veronica and Keith spent their summer, since they were supposed to go to New York together, and clearly that didn't happen? Thomas: The thing you'll learn very quickly is that Keith eventually did make it to New York, and he ended up there a couple days late. But he did make it. And really, for the sake of storytelling, it's been a fairly uneventful summer. Although the thing that I will say is that the Logan/Veronica relationship is going strong. The last time we see them in season 2, they are clearly together, and I know that the fans would beat me with sticks if suddenly they broke up over the summer for unexplained reasons. I've said before that I want the Logan/Veronica relationship to be a roller coaster ride; I want it to feel like the relationship of somebody you fell in love with in high school. It shouldn't… It would be unrealistic, particularly for two characters who are so headstrong and volatile like those two, to have this nice, sweet romance play out for five years. There will be ups and downs, and they're going to start the season on an up. IGN TV: I was going to say, I know I'm in the minority here -- I love both characters, but I'm one of the few who doesn't think they should be together romantically. Thomas: [Nods] Well, I think that's perfectly legitimate, and the thing that I always say about the two of them is, I'm as interested in them not-together as I am together. I love to see them in scenes together, but whether or not they're dating doesn't really matter that much to me. But I want it to feel… One thing I would agree with the fans who are in that Veronica/Logan camp is that we never got to see them in a solid relationship. I'm interested in exploring what the two of them look like in that. We're going to throw obstacles in front of them. So even if the destiny of the show is that in episode 100 they ride off into the sunset together -- which I'm not saying it is! But it certainly is one of the possibilities, and if they continue to have the kind of chemistry I generally think that they have on screen, together or not, that could be the ending of the show -- I want it to be a rocky ride. I think that's what's fun, dramatically. IGN TV: With all the characters entering college and a new part of their lives, do you think it's a good opportunity to maybe have some interaction between characters we haven't really seen hang out much before? Thomas: Yeah. In fact, we're gonna see… We had the one episode last year where we saw Wallace and Logan together. We get a great Wallace/Logan story in episode three this year that I'm excited about. We have a great Weevil/Keith storyline that we haven't seen before. We also have a Wallace/Mac actual arc that we're gonna play. IGN TV: Is this a possible romance? Thomas: Not exactly. They're gonna become friends. Mac… There's a line in-between there. But I think Wallace is going to be helpful in helping Mac with her boy issues.
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Post by Michelle on Sept 27, 2006 21:25:05 GMT -5
Comments for Episode 1, of Season 3:
Lucky, Gia’s stalker from last season is the TA in Veronica’s Criminology course!!!!!! AAAAAAHHHHH!!! Creep city. OK, well technically, it’s not Lucky, but the same actor, now sporting a goatee and long hair that looks suspiciously like a wig.
Veronica playing the smarty pants in her class. Quelle surprise.
New opening credits: don’t really like them. A poor attempt at noir, it ends up looking more like credits for The Young and The Restless. Everyone looks dour and the Dandy Warhols’ tune has been slowed down to ill effect.
So Piz’ stuff was stolen and Wallace promises that Veronica will find it for him. It’s good to see Wallace, I have to say. He seems to love college life, and appears to have moved on from his relationship with Jackie relatively unscathed.
Mac’s room mate Parker has a poster of a bad boy with sexily moussed, yet mussed hair and dreamy chocolate eyes. Why does Parker have a picture of Logan on her wall? Woops, that’s not Logan, that’s intense actor Colin Farrell. Parker thinks he looks “soulful and troubled and deep.” Oh, and he’d probably be an animal in the sack. Veronica advises Parker to get her shots before finding out. Draw your own conclusions about this.
As soon as the Union Jack Speedo and ski-mask clad guy started dancing with the blow-up doll, I knew it was Dick. Poor messed-up Dick. Logan will take you in. He’s your BFF. He'll give you a hug!
But--turns out Logan isn’t showing up for his classes. Why?
Logan offers Veronica his hotel key, indicating his desire for a serious relationship. She accepts it, but it’s clear that Veronica is still not quite ready to put her trust in him.
Piz wants to know if Logan is Veronica’s boyfriend. No answer. See above, re: trust.
I admit it: when Piz shows up in Duncan’s argyle shirt (given to him by Veronica), I literally screamed out loud. Duncan: gone, but not forgotten.
Interesting role reversal comments—Logan jokes that Veronica is even more butch than before and asks her to walk him to class. She carries his books for him.
Then, this exchange between Veronica and Mac: Veronica: Women. Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch.
Mac: Why can they just look pretty and get their MRS degrees?
And then-- Veronica quickly jumps out of the post-coital bed, whereas Logan suggests that they work on their communication.
All of which leads me to think sex role reversal will come into play as Veronica investigates the campus rapist whodunit.
Back to trust issues. Keith put his trust in Kendall’s ex-con husband, helping both him and Kendall out of a jam. That turned out to be a mistake. Did Kendall’s hubby shoot Kendall? Or Liam? Tune in for the next episode of Veronica Mars to find out, kiddies!
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Post by leftylady on Nov 17, 2006 12:38:40 GMT -5
Sue wanted to know how many episodes were official now for VM and how long the mystery arcs were to be.
I heard that the initial 13 episode order was upped by 3 to 16.
Rob T had announced a 9-episode first arc and a 7-episode second arc. This would match the current order.
This has me worrying. The ratings of the last episode were very low. It may be that the CW is giving VM a chance to finish an arc but no more. If the original 13 order stood, the 2nd arc would be left hanging or unreasonably shortened. There are already signs to me of budget cuts: no Tina since the first few episodes. Sparing use of Wallace and Weevil. It seems to me that there is less use of recorded songs, mainly scoring.
I hope I'm wrong here but don't want to get my hopes up. The other CW shows are not drawing super great numbers either, so unless the CW thinks it's got a better show in the wings, they might just let the season ride out.
[The last arc would be 6 episodes long, if there is a full season pick up.]
leftylady, who would miss VM very much
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Post by KMInfinity on Dec 1, 2006 6:02:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this was shared elsewhere, maybe in a Part where I didn't see it, but it is spoilery, so I'm adding it here. Please move it if neccesary. www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/blog/index.jsp?uuid=4992edd6-8f92-4afd-b1a4-d98abaf9af4fTrust Rob, I guess. But this sure sounds like spinning rather than a plan. One-off episodes can be good, but I just don't think the complexity of the mysteries can hold up in that format. I'm sure RT would make certain the episodes would be quality TV, but it will be something different. If I'm in the mood for creme brulee the best chocolate cake in the world won't remove that desire. I might enjoy the cake very much, but will be missing the creme brulee. Does that make sense?
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Post by Michelle on Dec 1, 2006 10:22:08 GMT -5
KMInfinity, I read the Kristin interview with Rob Thomas at the site, then I read some of the comments. I loved this one regarding switching to stand alone episodes:
Twin Peaks' David Lynch would turn over in his grave if he were dead... what a terrible, unfortunate plan.
Hee! It made me laugh. I don't know if I feel that strongly about it, because I think if the writing is good, a couple episodes of it could work. I just wouldn't want a whole season of disconnectedness.
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Post by leftylady on Dec 1, 2006 19:46:47 GMT -5
KMInfinity, I read the Kristin interview with Rob Thomas at the site, then I read some of the comments. I loved this one regarding switching to stand alone episodes: Twin Peaks' David Lynch would turn over in his grave if he were dead... what a terrible, unfortunate plan.Hee! It made me laugh. I don't know if I feel that strongly about it, because I think if the writing is good, a couple episodes of it could work. I just wouldn't want a whole season of disconnectedness. You and me both. Then it just becomes a Nancy Drew with a touch of noir, assuming the CW doesn't want that taken away too! The longer mysteries allow the MOTW to take on deeper, more metaphoric meaning. I can't even really imagine VM with only MOTW. leftylady
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Post by artemis on Jan 20, 2007 7:18:37 GMT -5
they've decided to go through with it:
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Post by Sue on Jan 20, 2007 10:17:39 GMT -5
they've decided to go through with it: Good gracious, I hope nobody watches that show! (The reality show while VM is on hiatus.) grrr arrrgh. And the Catch 22 is that you have to hope for good ratings for the final 5 (stand alone) eps so that it gets renewed, but if the ratings are good the PTB will take that as a sign that the eps should continue to be stand alone.
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Post by Michelle on Jan 20, 2007 12:48:04 GMT -5
they've decided to go through with it: Good gracious, I hope nobody watches that show! (The reality show while VM is on hiatus.) grrr arrrgh. And the Catch 22 is that you have to hope for good ratings for the final 5 (stand alone) eps so that it gets reviewed, but if the ratings are good the PTB will take that as a sign that the eps should continue to be stand alone. Sigh. I'm with you on everything you said, Sue. This sucks beyond the telling.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jan 20, 2007 21:46:04 GMT -5
latest twop interview with Rob ThomasThere are only a few minor spoilers, special guest star and some comments about the structure and focus of the rest of the season. He talks a lot about how he writes the show and his reaction to fan opinion etc. definitely worth a read.
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Post by Sue on Jan 24, 2007 12:57:15 GMT -5
Good gracious, I hope nobody watches that show! (The reality show while VM is on hiatus.) grrr arrrgh. And the Catch 22 is that you have to hope for good ratings for the final 5 (stand alone) eps so that it gets reviewed, but if the ratings are good the PTB will take that as a sign that the eps should continue to be stand alone. Sigh. I'm with you on everything you said, Sue. This sucks beyond the telling. [Wondering if it would be possible to transfer this discussion to the VM thread without stepping on any toes since it doesn't involve plot or characters, just possible formatting?] Had a thought: I might not hate a stand alone format. Yes, the first season was great but trying to play a mystery out over a long period while balancing handing out just enough clues but not too much is an incredibly difficult balancing act and takes focus away from other things. See, I "work" at home and so I flip stations which cooking or folding laundry, etc. I run into old reruns of formula shows from the 90's, 80's, 70's. Some were horrid and the more they stuck to a predetermined formula they less I liked them. But take, for instance, Magnum P.I. Each week he solved a mystery but there was no formula (crime lab, perry mason style confession, columbo type investigation) to how he went about it. There was HUGE variety in the type of mystery; the format of the show; and especially the use of supporting characters. One downside of the current VM format is that in addition to introducing, supplying motivation and clues, and solving a MOTW in 44 minutes RT is also forced to include some moving forward of the longer arc mystery as well. This is one thing that contributes to Veronica and Keith being at the center so much and leaves so so little time for supporting characters and relationship development. (Think of Magnum's long-term development of TC, Rick and Higgins and episodes that focused on each of them as individuals.) Yes, but it worked for Buffy, you say. Well, not exactly in the same way. For one thing once the season long monster was introduced you didn't have to keep it a mystery. Also, there were whole episodes which had little or nothing to do with the longer arc. Yes, in retrospect sometimes tiny little things were introduced that later showed to have more significance but most episodes revolved around the MOTW and developing the characters as persons and the relationships between/amongst them. If VM went primarily to a standalone episode format it is possible that that would leave a lot more time/scope for developing the characters as individuals and also examine their relationships with one another. And.....there could be tiny little clues in individual episodes which eventually take on larger meaning in future episodes or 2 or 3 parters. I think it's definitely worth exploring and could actually add to the multidimensionalism of VM. It's never good to get too locked in to any format---even that of a longer mystery arc. So, do you think I can post these musings over on the VM Misc. thread or is it spoilerish?
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