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Post by Joshua Adams on Jul 10, 2003 9:19:37 GMT -5
And who was attacking liberals round here. Foaming at the mouth indeed. Of course, if by liberals you mean Democrats, ie the same thing as Republicans, then whatever. Won't even attempt to defend them. But there is actually a stereotype of liberals being hot-headed, lacking intellectual arguments for their views, and whatnot? That's a little backwards, but I guess that saves one the trouble of actually challenging a "liberal" to debate. This is a of good will, lest anyone take me too serious.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Jul 10, 2003 9:32:42 GMT -5
After reading last night's posting extravaganza, it occurred to me that BtVS and the Jossverse are your quintessential melting pot:
We have conservatives, liberals (me!), women, men, people living all over the world, a wide variety of spiritual beliefs, and I know at least one atheist who is a huge fan, many professions, many ages, many ethnicities - all coming together over - a TV show! Gotta love it! yes, its verra cool...the only things we have in common are extreme intelligence, wit, and humility! ;D
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Post by deborah on Jul 10, 2003 9:33:09 GMT -5
And who was attacking liberals round here. Foaming at the mouth indeed. Of course, if by liberals you mean Democrats, ie the same thing as Republicans, then whatever. Won't even attempt to defend them. But there is actually a stereotype of liberals being hot-headed, lacking intellectual arguments for their views, and whatnot? That's a little backwards, but I guess that saves one the trouble of actually challenging a "liberal" to debate. This is a of good will, lest anyone take me too serious. Well said, Josh. I don't want to offend my fellow S'cubies, both Rebublicans and Democrats alike, but both parties are keenly invested in sustaining that stereotype. It's no mystery to me why Ralph Nader was barred from participating in the presidential candidate debates. Heaven forbid the major candidates would have actually had to debate someone with significantly opposing views intelligently and articulately presented. Me thinks he would have wiped the floor with both of them without ever once waiving his hands in the air, rolling his eyes or foaming at the mouth.
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Post by Becky H on Jul 10, 2003 9:34:00 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Lee. There's something really sexy about the quiet subtle ones - like they have hidden depths of passion. I could get quite obsessed with Spacey. William H Macy, too, I think. ASH, of course, has always struck me that way, also Bradley Whitford on West Wing - Rob Lowe never does it for me, for some reason. Maybe because he's too obviously pretty.
I better go drink my morning cuppa before I get any sillier - Wheatabix for breakfast (strawberries instead of blood, though)! Ditto on the smart boys being sexy - you have to have someone who's easy on the mind as well as the eyes. That's why I like everybody you mentioned as well as David Straitharn (my favorite character actor, next to Mr. Spacey) and John Cusack, who is close to conventionally cute but obviously has it going on upstairs. By the way, if you think it's hard being a Democrat in California, try it in Kansas. Remember, we're the state that tried to remove the teaching of evolution from our science standards a few years ago. Admit that you're living with a post-19th century perspective here and you're automatically a liberal. Tell that to my daughter who has me nominated for meanest/strictest mom of the year!
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Post by SpringSummers on Jul 10, 2003 9:43:33 GMT -5
I think Robin Williams was woefully miscast as Garp but everybody else was excellent - I just can't figure out how they decide when to be faithful to the book and when to send an airplane crashing into the house. John Irving tells the woeful tale in My Movie Business, which is pretty funny. As for Mr. Williams, I like him in small doses and when someone reins in his whimsy. So, yes to Good Will Hunting and Dead Poets Society but no to Mrs. Doubtfire and a screaming, running-from-the-room, no to Hook. I liked Robin Williams in Awakenings, and the rest - well . . . I just always find myself thinking, when I see a movie of his, that the movie would be better with someone else it in. I thought he was especially badly miscast in Garp and in Bicentennial Man. I can't take much Robin Williams - small doses is a good way to put it. It . . . sort of pains me to watch him. I just can't describe it.
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Post by SpringSummers on Jul 10, 2003 9:45:55 GMT -5
Yeah, the Canadian Government knew it would never win a conventional war with the US, and so fifty years ago it began a genetics engineering program to create the greatest actors, comedians, and musicians in the world. Hehe...Russell Crowe Fightin' Round the World. Ridiculous. Wait . . . when did all the world's greatest artists of all types stop coming from Italy?
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jul 10, 2003 9:47:24 GMT -5
I've made my way through all the posts. In part 18, Diane said: Them's fighting words with me! Russell Crowe is gorgeous - I absolutely adore him! Yes, he's a "bad boy" but he is one sexy "bad boy". Have you seen him in Gladiator? Putting aside his wonderful performance in that movie, did you see him in that skirt?! Whoa momma! He looked mighty fine in that Gladiator outfit. Lost me there, Puddin'. I do not find Crowe the least bit attractive. He always looks dirty and greasy to me. Yes, I did see Gladiator. Any relationship to ancient Rome was purely coincidental. Just pass the Marsters, please.
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Post by SpringSummers on Jul 10, 2003 9:47:45 GMT -5
And who was attacking liberals round here. Foaming at the mouth indeed. Of course, if by liberals you mean Democrats, ie the same thing as Republicans, then whatever. Won't even attempt to defend them. But there is actually a stereotype of liberals being hot-headed, lacking intellectual arguments for their views, and whatnot? That's a little backwards, but I guess that saves one the trouble of actually challenging a "liberal" to debate. This is a of good will, lest anyone take me too serious. No - I am glad you posted this. My family has a long Democratic/liberal tradition and I don't hold with the stereotypes at all . . .
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Post by Becky H on Jul 10, 2003 9:54:48 GMT -5
No - I am glad you posted this. My family has a long Democratic/liberal tradition and I don't hold with the stereotypes at all . . . Yes, I hate stereotyping, period. Let me be as fully rounded an individual as I am. Just because I'm a Democrat doesn't mean I haven't crossed the aisle and voted for the occasional Republican. What gets me is the tit for tat denigration of the other side from the various Ann Coulters and Al Frankens of the world. Let's be courteous in our disagreements, people. Which, incidentally, is one of my favorite things about this board.
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Post by SpringSummers on Jul 10, 2003 9:56:43 GMT -5
Lost me there, Puddin'. I do not find Crowe the least bit attractive. He always looks dirty and greasy to me. Yes, I did see Gladiator. Any relationship to ancient Rome was purely coincidental. Just pass the Marsters, please. YES, I'm with you on this one Diane. Crowe: No go Marsters: Heart stirs!
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Post by Micha on Jul 10, 2003 9:58:08 GMT -5
Yeah, the Canadian Government knew it would never win a conventional war with the US, and so fifty years ago it began a genetics engineering program to create the greatest actors, comedians, and musicians in the world. Hehe...Russell Crowe Fightin' Round the World. Ridiculous. Oh, oh... I think they're on to us... (Good to hear from ya Josh! It's been a dog's age!) Micha
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Post by Laura on Jul 10, 2003 10:01:54 GMT -5
Wait . . . when did all the world's greatest artists of all types stop coming from Italy? Hear, hear, Spring!
Actually, we all know there are only two types of people in this world: those who are Italian, and those who want to be! ;D
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Post by LeeHollins on Jul 10, 2003 10:02:29 GMT -5
YES, I'm with you on this one Diane. Crowe: No go Marsters: Heart stirs! While I do not agree with your assessment of Mr. Crowe, this did give me quite a giggle! Hear that, Russell? I may have laughed but I still find you damn sexy!
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Post by Laura on Jul 10, 2003 10:12:22 GMT -5
Yes, I hate stereotyping, period. Let me be as fully rounded an individual as I am. Just because I'm a Democrat doesn't mean I haven't crossed the aisle and voted for the occasional Republican. What gets me is the tit for tat denigration of the other side from the various Ann Coulters and Al Frankens of the world. Let's be courteous in our disagreements, people. Which, incidentally, is one of my favorite things about this board. Absolutely agree with you there, Becky. Yay, us!
And that being said, I have to reply to something Gail said in Part 18:Gail, I wish I could introduce you to my best friend, who's a Jewish Republican on the Upper West Side of Manhattan!
Laura (another fellow Republican) ;D
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Post by ldelrossi on Jul 10, 2003 10:20:28 GMT -5
Anne D said -"There's something really sexy about the quiet, subtle ones - like they have hidden depths of passion."
Angel and Wesley certainly fit that bill for me. Who would have suspected that Wes would be with Lilah? And we all know Angel's seething depths. (Be still my heart!)
I agree about Russell and Guy. I would add Colin Firth. His aloofness and tight control is all the more sexy when he allows himself to succumb. And at the risk of total mockery, I also add Keanu Reeves. To me he is gentle, controlled like Colin, and perhaps shy of intimacy. Although almost everyone hated him in "Walk in the Clouds," I found him touching, vulnerable and incredibly sexy.
I have found that sexually restrained men often have deep chasms of desire once you've penetrated the outer core.
This post seems more appropriate to a 3 A.M. discussion. Sorry.
Lori
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