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Post by karalee on Jul 19, 2003 23:40:39 GMT -5
I'll probably make the list of offenders with what I've done to Spike: I burned his hands off, got him thoroughly sorted by s spell, put him through torture performed by Angel (in the course of which Spike's eyes were removed), and several prolonged recoveries. Buffy also sasses him a lot. I read a story recently where is eyeballs were removed and little wooden balls were put in the sockets. Yuck!
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Post by Betsy on Jul 19, 2003 23:45:02 GMT -5
I'll probably make the list of offenders with what I've done to Spike: I burned his hands off, got him thoroughly sorted by s spell, put him through torture performed by Angel (in the course of which Spike's eyes were removed), and several prolonged recoveries. Buffy also sasses him a lot. Yes you put Spike thru the wringer that's for sure. Also I couldn't believe what you had Angel do to him . . . hard for me to read as an Angel lover also. But in some ways I could see him doing that and that's maybe because I've branched his character out further than the show thanks to all the fan fic I've read.
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Post by Betsy on Jul 19, 2003 23:46:35 GMT -5
What you gave me will work fine. I can copy it into the brower winder and hit enter. I read a lot of Spike/angel/Angelus slash . . so no worries there.
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Post by Betsy on Jul 19, 2003 23:50:41 GMT -5
Thanks Karalee and your hubby too . . . I got the site and have it bookmarked. Will be checking it out tonite.
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Post by Betsy on Jul 19, 2003 23:58:14 GMT -5
If you go to the Spike and Angel stories you'll get the twisted Revisited stories. The Eternity stories are the worst. Want Need, Love under the I Hated You Because....stories is pretty bad too. I don't know how you will take them but I was like "GAH, NO" when I read them. Um...slash doesn't bother you does it? Its not all slash by the way. I do get a kick out of her warning page. If you want to read the stories you click on a line that says "I am a mature, responsible individual who wishes to read the literature" I am far from a mature and responsible individual but I always click on it so I can read the "literature". Never read her Revisited Series, but look sinteresting. I have read som eof her I Hate You Because series and liked some of them.
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Post by karalee on Jul 19, 2003 23:59:00 GMT -5
Thanks Karalee and your hubby too . . . I got the site and have it bookmarked. Will be checking it out tonite. Your welcome. You'll be there awhile. She has a bunch of stories. I haven't read alot of them. Mainly the ones I mentioned.
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Post by makd on Jul 20, 2003 1:21:30 GMT -5
Gail
I am a newbie, who's been lurking for a few months, studying everyone's comments, enjoying that there are others who love BtVS, and Spike's saga.
I want to send my condolences; I can understand what you are experiencing. My dad died 24 years ago; my mom died 18 years ago. It wasn't easy; the pain was profound, especially since I was an only child.
If you wouldn't be offended,I will say a prayer for him. If you'd rather not, I won't. Just say the word. I just feel your pain. I know it's a cliche`, but I do mean it.
makd
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Post by RAKSHA on Jul 20, 2003 1:31:54 GMT -5
Gail, you and your mother and your entire family have my heart-felt sympathy. I know you're tired and stunned right now -- I hope that there's somebody who can look after you while you look after your family in the next few days.
I think it may have been better that you left your father while he was still alive -- I think, in some respects, that will keep him "alive" in your mind, as well as your heart. And I don't think it was a coincidence that he passed on his wedding anniversary -- I think he was probably struggling to make it to that date for himself and your mother, and that having done it, he decided it was time to rest.
Please consider this my virtual shiva visit -- you'll be in my prayers this week-end. Thanx to Nan, Betsy, Sue, Laura, Anne D., Lori, Karalee, LadyDi, Becky H., Rob, PattiT, and Kerrie, for your kind words on and off the board. We're coping. I've been sleeping more than usual today. We don't sit shiva; our family has always been more reform than reform in terms of what kind of Judaism we practice, but I love the idea of virtual shiva. My mother has been phoning her oldest friends in the Auld Country (the Midwest) and that's helped. We'll probably get more with the program tomorrow and Monday. Arrangements have to be made. I read the Buffyverse novel BLOOD AND FOG (BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Blood And Fog) by Nancy Holder while at the hospital - several times. It's pretty decent, with attention paid to Spike and Buffy, though it's implied that Spike is in greater control of the relationship than Buffy is and that wasn't true, also that he was manipulating her to a greater degree than I remember. An interesting turn with Willow. I reread one of my father's favorite books also, and read some passages to him - Homer's Iliad. My dad was never very interested in the Bible (though he did get Bar Mitzvahed, being the only Jewish boy I've ever heard of to get a Bar Mitzvah without knowing any Hebrew - he did the whole thing in English). Anyway, I keep thinking of a line in the Iliad, Butler translation, spoken by the great Trojan warrior Hector to his worried wife: "My own wife, do not take these things too bitterly to heart. No one can hurry me down to Hades before my time, but if a man's hour is come, be he brave or be he coward, there is no escape for him when he has once been born." Not true for our fictional vampire friends, but true in the world where we live. Gail
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Post by RAKSHA on Jul 20, 2003 1:34:41 GMT -5
Gail I am a newbie, who's been lurking for a few months, studying everyone's comments, enjoying that there are others who love BtVS, and Spike's saga. I want to send my condolences; I can understand what you are experiencing. My dad died 24 years ago; my mom died 18 years ago. It wasn't easy; the pain was profound, especially since I was an only child. If you wouldn't be offended,I will say a prayer for him. If you'd rather not, I won't. Just say the word. I just feel your pain. I know it's a cliche`, but I do mean it. makd That's so sweet of you. I wouldn't be offended. I'm an only child too; and not looking forward to the time, hopefully several years away, when my mother goes to join my father (thank God she's in pretty good health at 82). Gail
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Post by Nan-S'cubie Mascot on Jul 20, 2003 1:48:27 GMT -5
Okay. Brad's helping me do a link to her site. www.sabershadowkat.com/btvs2.htmlIf you go to the Spike and Angel stories you'll get the twisted Revisited stories. The Eternity stories are the worst. Want Need, Love under the I Hated You Because....stories is pretty bad too. I don't know how you will take them but I was like "GAH, NO" when I read them. Um...slash doesn't bother you does it? Its not all slash by the way. I do get a kick out of her warning page. If you want to read the stories you click on a line that says "I am a mature, responsible individual who wishes to read the literature" I am far from a mature and responsible individual but I always click on it so I can read the "literature". Crap the link didn't work. Gimme a minute. We can't get it to work. What do I need to do or can you get there with what I gave you? Karalee, I think you didn't have your / inside your [. I've changed it in this quote; the link should work now. I'll copy it here to make it easier to use. www.sabershadowkat.com/btvs2.html
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Post by SpringSummers on Jul 20, 2003 6:46:28 GMT -5
I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my discussion of my father's illness in the last few days.
My father died around 4 a.m. today (July 19), 15 minutes after my mother and I left his bedside in the I.C.U. We had been there for several hours, were tired, and thought that death was still hours away. It wouldn't have mattered much to my father whether we were there or not, he was sedated, very relaxed, and I don't think he knew we were there. But I had wanted to be there when the time came for him to go. We spent the night watching the blood pressure drop bit by bit, and death creep up on him. He was on a ventilator. Death was caused by a combination of pneumonia, malnutrition (thanx to his not eating as much as he should have, since he wasn't happy with the food at the rehab facililties where he spent the last five months), bacterial infection in the blood, lung cancer (which had not yet advanced to the point where he had symptoms), dehydration, slight loss of kidney function, and a mild heart attack. It was just too much for a tired 90-year-old to battle.
Today is my parents' 50th wedding anniversary.
This end was not unexpected; hence the lack of sudden grief. We are tired and numb. We knew he didn't have several years left, but hoped and expected to bring him home for at least a few months, so he could be at home and have good food rather than bland institutional food and care by strangers, however well-intentioned...
Gail So sorry. It is always hard to lose a loved one, no matter what the circumstances. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
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Post by Sue P on Jul 20, 2003 8:01:58 GMT -5
Sue, your difficulty with loading pages bearing many of the animated GIF avatars is duly noted (by me). If it persists, and/or if others share it who don't have a broadband connection, I shall forego mine. I like the novelty and very much appreciate Betsy's invention, but the content of the board is more important than which picture accompanies my comments. Please continue to let me know if the problem persists, and anybody else who has the problem, please say so. We may need to take turns having animated avatars. I didn't anticipate a problem when I went out collecting them--I just thought they were NEAT. Nan, Thanks. I don't want to spoil anybody's fun. I'm pretty spoiled since I do have highspeed cable so the delays are more irritants than major hang-ups (although, still jerky) (Really weird--it's less of a problem if I use the arrow down to scroll, than if I use the mouse and click on the bottom right screen arrow. computeres may be "logical" machines, but they still are quirky.) I just wanted to know whether the problem was widespread and apparently it is not. Sue
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Post by William the Bloody on Jul 20, 2003 8:18:39 GMT -5
Joshua's Chapters 5 and 6 of Distance have now been posted. Check for them in the Fanfictional area of the S3 Website.
I hope everyone enjoys them!
Vlad
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Post by Sandy - lparish on Jul 20, 2003 8:57:04 GMT -5
Gail:
I am so sorry to hear of your father's passing.
I've lost both my parents and many others in my life. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
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Post by Sandy - lparish on Jul 20, 2003 9:28:37 GMT -5
I logged out, saw you were logged in and came back.
First, I want to comment on your gracious words concerning fan-fic, way more nice than I would have been.
And...appreciated the link to the British slang site. I learned much. While I could figure the meaning of a lot of the words from the context, I didn't know where they came from or if the writer's dreamed them up. Thanks.
Finally...you are so talented...your writing is great, I hope you can get someone to publish your stuff and make some money!!
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