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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:43:38 GMT -5
I read that essay at the end of Season 6. I couldn't agree with her more. I should go back and reread it. She, or someone else, said that the trials weren't hard enough because Spike likes to fight and he's good at it. They suggested that he should have been asked to do math story problems, or something else that would be harder for him than just kill flaming demons and have bugs go up his nose.
Rusty Goode
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:44:34 GMT -5
Call me callous, but the trials we saw seemed a little contrived and, as the essay mentioned, not hard enough for the prize he got. A fanwank here could be that Spike had already worked extraordinarily hard throughout the summer Buffy was dead (between Seasons 5 and 6) to do good deeds and he continued to evolve throughout season 6 before he went to get his soul. And just the fact that he made the choice to get one counts in his favor. Yeah, major fanwank. So - if the you could have written the trials, what trials would you have designed for him? Remember, it has to have *some* visual element to work on TV.
Alexandra K.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:45:32 GMT -5
Canon fodder: How Buffy sees things is much more important in the Buffyverse than how others perceive reality. Buffy has a very rigid view of dark and light, good and evil. No matter how her feelings pull her in other directions, she always comes back to the same place. Spike did what he felt he needed to do to be right with Buffy. It's Buffy who needs to see that soul, or no soul, Spike can be redeemed and therefore loved. This is something that could never happen with Angelus.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:46:14 GMT -5
Soccer mom for a day? Marsha Brady for a week?
Rusty Goode
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:46:59 GMT -5
Before I forget, welcome. Thanks for your input, for voting and for reading my fic. Rusty
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:47:40 GMT -5
Alexandra, these pictures aren't appearing for me. Just some little wheely picture, even when I go directly to the web address.
Patti T.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:48:24 GMT -5
Yeah, that whole scene was cool. That is my friend Charles' favorite episode just because of that scene in the Bronze, especially when they are 'walking' toward their prey on the balcony, in slo-mo - that is filmed so mesmerizingly. (Charles adores Dru. I adore Spike, so that works.)
Patti T.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:49:21 GMT -5
Thanks Rusty! I'm enjoying your story.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:49:54 GMT -5
Deborah wrote: Right there with you sister. And btw, have you read Barbara Cummings essay: "Season Six: A Letter to Mutant Enemy"? (Should that question mark have been in or outside of the quotation marks? Pls advise.) The statement is correct as stands. The only things that ALWAYS go inside available end quotation marks are periods and commas. Other marks of punctuation go inside or outside the quotes, depending on whether they belong to the quote or to the sentence proper. Since the question mark belongs to the sentence, not to the quoted title, it needs to be outside the end quotes, just as you have put it. [However, Barbara Cummings should have been Barbara Cummings's (assuming her name is *Cummings," with the *s* as part of the name); but I digress.] Everybody seems to have gotten the rule about periods and commas always going inside available end quotes pretty straight, it seems. Now I'll start in on you all on "to you and I" and similar locutions, in which you have two objects of either a preposition (as in the example) or of the sentence (e.g., "He praised George and I for our work on the project." In these cases, the *I* should always be a *me,* since the objects are equivalent (i.e., BOTH are objects) and therefore require the objective form *me,* not the subject form, *I*. A good way to check on this is turn the double object into *we/us* or *they/them,* whichever fits. If you'd say, "He praised US," you know the object form (George and me) is required. If it's a sentence like "George and (?) went to the store," you'd say WE went to the store, and therefore would use *I*, not *me.* It's fairly simple with these double subjects or double objects to keep the pronouns straight if you substitute the plural for the singular as a test. This natuarlly also applies to she/her, he/him, they/them, and we/us when used as subjects or objects with another word (e.g., "The Thompsons and we got caught in the rain yesterday," although it's more natural to say, "We and the Thompsons etc." The order doesn't matter--only what function the words are performing in the sentence: are they subjects, or are they objects? Thus endeth today's lesson. Your friendly neighborhood Grammar Nazi. Nan
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:50:24 GMT -5
My discerning eye immediately detects the person on the left as Nick's brother, what's-his-name. (I'm not so good on names). Nan
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:51:00 GMT -5
Thank you Nan. deborah
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:51:37 GMT -5
Hi, Did you get the Email I sent you yesterday? I was thinking my thoughts on the Andromeda episode could be posted with a Spoiler Warning on the Subject line so those who who wished to could avoid reading anything about it until they've seen it. deborah
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:52:17 GMT -5
Ha! Rusty, I love the Soccer Mom for a Day. Stipulation would be that not only HE, but all his charges and anyone they come in contact with must SURVIVE the day. Also, Spike could have come to my house and I would have been glad to test his stamina and courage with custom-made trials. It was springtime when he was going through those trials, so I think we'd start with some yardwork (shirtless), and then move indoors. With the trials we saw - they were kinda wimpy, but I never had the impression we saw all the trials. I had the idea - I'm not sure from what, I'd have to rewatch - that he went through a series of trials over several days, and we say only a few of them.
Spring Summers
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:53:08 GMT -5
NB is a good looking guy. I don't know what the mysterious thing is that creates "chemistry" on screen, but he had it with Charisma C and Allyson H, and also with Emma C - but it just wasn't there with SMG. Does anyone think she sparks with Robin Wood? I think there is more chemistry there than there was with Riley, but it is far from overwhelming at this point.
Spring Summers
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 15:53:50 GMT -5
Spring asked: "Does anyone think she sparks with Robin Wood?" None what so ever (but I expect my answer was pretty predictable). IIRC you put it pretty well on the Episode board last week, Spring. Wasn't it you who said something about Wood's role being intended to act as Buffy's final temptation for a relationship with a *normal* guy before finally turning back to Spike? deborah
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