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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Oct 26, 2004 22:29:31 GMT -5
First episode and maybe second, it is stated that VM's mom left about a month after the murder, which happened 9 months prior to the pilot and is probably about 11 months now. There was a time frame reference in ep 3 I believe that made it like a month between that and hte pilot.And we have had two eps since then. Vlad I wonder how long you have to wait in California to get a divorce from someone who disappears?
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Post by William the Bloody on Oct 26, 2004 22:36:56 GMT -5
Concerning Troy: I think we haven't probably seen the last of him. Wanna bet he blows back into town, needing Veronica's help? Over somethign serious?
Also...Okay, who else thought the "IF I find the steroids, you are taking them backand refunding your dealer's money" sorta lame? We have already seen Veronica break many laws, from impersonating someone to the police, to breaking and entering, to commiting arson in the police station. All pretty serious stuff. But now we are to believe that she is all squeamish about some illegal steroids hitting the street and being bought by folks that want them? Besides, she has to know that would NOT be an acceptable solution to the dealer. He invested that 8,000 and he is going to want more back than 8. Either the drugs or a return on his dollar.
Sorry, I jsut felt the breath of hte politically correct police breathing down the neck of the writers there and it didn't feel "right" for the character. She is way too practical for that. Finding hte drugs was simply a by-product of finding hte car for her boyfriend anyway, and I just don't see the Veronica we have seen thus far giving THAT much a hoot about what Troy's buddy did with hte drugs.
Vlad
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Oct 26, 2004 22:41:41 GMT -5
I disagree partially and agree partially.
I thought her solution was lame because no way would the dealer have just said 'ok' and taken the money back. That kid was going to be smashed if the dealer didn't get a profit.
But I don't see Veronica just shrugging about the drugs either. She's broken tons of laws yes, but supposedly 'harmless' ones - to defeat the 'bad guy'.
I don't think her character has been shown to be someone who would just shrug and think it was ok. Her father was the sheriff after all. Although...steroids...not heroin.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Oct 26, 2004 22:41:41 GMT -5
I disagree partially and agree partially.
I thought her solution was lame because no way would the dealer have just said 'ok' and taken the money back. That kid was going to be smashed if the dealer didn't get a profit.
But I don't see Veronica just shrugging about the drugs either. She's broken tons of laws yes, but supposedly 'harmless' ones - to defeat the 'bad guy'.
I don't think her character has been shown to be someone who would just shrug and think it was ok. Her father was the sheriff after all. Although...steroids...not heroin.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Oct 26, 2004 22:42:09 GMT -5
Ok, but I said it first. *sticks out her tongue.* good memory, Erin, that's right! *grin*
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Post by Rob on Oct 26, 2004 22:49:39 GMT -5
That schoolgirl outfit Veronica favors is going to be the death of me?
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Post by Queen E on Oct 26, 2004 22:51:16 GMT -5
That schoolgirl outfit Veronica favors is going to be the death of me? Poor Rob. Next they're going to be asking you to eat donuts and sleep with supermodels.
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Post by Queen E on Oct 26, 2004 22:51:50 GMT -5
good memory, Erin, that's right! *grin*
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Post by Matthew on Oct 27, 2004 3:39:38 GMT -5
The motorcycle action was kewl! Not enough Weevil, tho - but he is kinda evil isn't he - with the deal he has with his uncle?. I don't think that he's evil. A criminal, a thief, and a thug, yes, but not so much evil. He has his code of honour that he lives by, even if he is an outsider from the world of us "straits". That's the life he was born to. I pretty much bought Troy's story too: I've got a very dear friend who I would do just about anything for that used to be a drug courier. At least, she thinks she was. She had too much of a self preservation instinct to open any packages or ask too many questions. Not quite the same thing, granted, but a college acquaintance of mine was a pretty stand-up gal, and she'd been a dealer not too long before she cleaned up her life and started school. It does happen. *shrugs* Too bad he's a bastard... Did we know Veronica understood Spanish prior to this?
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Post by Matthew on Oct 27, 2004 3:45:53 GMT -5
I sure thought she had... Does anybody else think she just has TOO many connections? She knew what to do with that photo - found the oddest things about her friend Wallace in that detective database... She's SO ahead of Nancy Drew... Oh, Nancy would so kick her ass!!! Well, maybe not. Nancy probably doesn't have a taser. And you can NEVER have too many connections...
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Post by Matthew on Oct 27, 2004 3:51:31 GMT -5
that shocked me. I wasn't expecting that. Another of my friends who was flirting with the idea of becoming a dealer got way out of the life way quick because one of her friends got that treatment from the big dealers he was working with; people he was trying to cheat out of some money. So, I can't say that it shocked me. Disturbed? Hell yes.
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Post by Matthew on Oct 27, 2004 3:54:20 GMT -5
Lola! Actually, I thought we found out in an earlier episode that they knew Troy. I'm probably imagining it. That's the bad thing about new shows, no transcripts out there I can go check for references. (In my head, I'm hearing some inference that Duncan and Troy knew each other - not sure if I'm imagining that or not.) I think maybe I assumed they knew each other from the way they joked with Troy in the earlier episodes and how comfortable Troy was in their cars, etc. None of those earlier scenes had a very 'new guy in town' vibe to them but I can't go back and rewatch (I haven't taped these episodes) to see if I'd take it the same way the second time around. I think that they did too. <EDIT> And I see that Sue already covered that.... TWOP is recapping Veronica Mars, so you can go through the episodes there. And the recapper doesn't seem to hate it, so that's a plus.
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Post by Matthew on Oct 27, 2004 3:57:09 GMT -5
hm....don't think so...lets see what googling does for us... ok, he wrote for Dawson's Creek. writer producer for Cupid, and is NOT the singer for Matchbox 20. I'd been wondering about that last possibillity in a combination of terror and awe, myself.
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Post by Matthew on Oct 27, 2004 4:05:44 GMT -5
Concerning Troy: I think we haven't probably seen the last of him. Wanna bet he blows back into town, needing Veronica's help? Over somethign serious? Also...Okay, who else thought the "IF I find the steroids, you are taking them backand refunding your dealer's money" sorta lame? We have already seen Veronica break many laws, from impersonating someone to the police, to breaking and entering, to commiting arson in the police station. All pretty serious stuff. But now we are to believe that she is all squeamish about some illegal steroids hitting the street and being bought by folks that want them? Besides, she has to know that would NOT be an acceptable solution to the dealer. He invested that 8,000 and he is going to want more back than 8. Either the drugs or a return on his dollar. Sorry, I jsut felt the breath of hte politically correct police breathing down the neck of the writers there and it didn't feel "right" for the character. She is way too practical for that. Finding hte drugs was simply a by-product of finding hte car for her boyfriend anyway, and I just don't see the Veronica we have seen thus far giving THAT much a hoot about what Troy's buddy did with hte drugs. Vlad But.. but... "Drugs are bad, mmkay?"! Yeah, it seemed out of character for her to think that that would be a practical solution to whatsishead's problem. Murder, rape, steal, but by god, don't let people hurt themselves I think that she did know that neither the money nor the product was gonna be enough for whatsishead.(Zagnut. Or Zeigfield. Whatever his name was.) She knew enough about the side effects of steroid abuse to know about 'roid rage. hmm. Must think on her character some more. She doesn't give a flip about drinking, underage or other. What about recreational drug usage? hmm.. low opinion of dealers, that's for sure.
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Post by Sue on Oct 27, 2004 6:31:17 GMT -5
First episode and maybe second, it is stated that VM's mom left about a month after the murder, which happened 9 months prior to the pilot and is probably about 11 months now. There was a time frame reference in ep 3 I believe that made it like a month between that and hte pilot.And we have had two eps since then. Vlad More time clues: Lilly died soon after Homecoming and they just had Homecoming again--so, about a year. Also--when she found Lilly's traffic ticket there may have been an actual date mentioned? (Oct 3?) And that was the date of Lilly's death--because it de-established the alibis--something Veronica still hasn't shared with Dad (or authorities).
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