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Post by Lola m on Oct 18, 2005 20:53:03 GMT -5
Sue!!! Another amazing review/analysis! Loved and agreed with your themes and clues/hints. False fronts and "resume padding". The idea that virtually no one is as perfect or happy or impressive as they seem at first. Conspiracy and collusion at the heart of the mystery. The chart of what's "behind door number 2" is classic and a very handy guide. Loved your description of Beaver Cassidy and Dick as "the new Veronica" - seems like each week we get a chance to see someone who in some way is "this year's Veronica". Which I frankly am finding rather fascinating. I am completely with you on liking that RT continues to portray individual teachers and other adults as smart and capable and well, adult! Some awful, some noble, most somewhere in between - all very real. Loved your twist on the "nothing happens accidentally" quote. Perfect way to head up your list of clues. And by the way, nice listing! You brought up several connections that I hadn't made myself, like the quote about REITs and how that fits with the idea of a conspiracy rather than a single villian. And pointig out that the Logan/Kendall affair as well as the issues between Logan and Duncan are both additional examples of things that are not exactly what they seemed like on the surface. I also hadn't consciously noticed the compare and contrast of Veronica as adult or child. Again - most excellent job, Sue! Take a bow.
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Post by leftylady on Oct 22, 2005 15:04:46 GMT -5
Sue, what a great metaphor! "Come on down!" Who in Neptune is satisfied with what they've got? What would they trade for the fantasy of Door #2? Especially with this year's theme, what would the "Haves" do (or not do) if "The Price is Right"?
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Post by leftylady on Oct 22, 2005 15:15:25 GMT -5
Wow! What a throrough post! She brought up things I would have never thought of. Here's another post of hers that is interesting... talks about the apple images we keep getting over and over again. I had to link it because she went back to include something that I posted about elsewhere - with her take on it (pears vs apples). Thnaks for the link. Interesting, the "physics" of VM. What will it take to stop Logan's path of self destruction? I'm sure whatever RT has in mind will be shocking to the audience and inevitable in hindsight. Can't wait to see it happen.
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Post by Sue on Oct 24, 2005 18:21:15 GMT -5
Sue, what a great metaphor! "Come on down!" Who in Neptune is satisfied with what they've got? What would they trade for the fantasy of Door #2? Especially with this year's theme, what would the "Haves" do (or not do) if "The Price is Right"? Thanks, LL (I'm responding to comments backwards.) Clever idea to take the metaphor even further. Of course Veronica et al seem to always have to pay emotionally rather than financially.
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Post by Sue on Oct 24, 2005 18:24:20 GMT -5
Sue!!! Another amazing review/analysis! Loved and agreed with your themes and clues/hints. False fronts and "resume padding". The idea that virtually no one is as perfect or happy or impressive as they seem at first. Conspiracy and collusion at the heart of the mystery. The chart of what's "behind door number 2" is classic and a very handy guide. Loved your description of Beaver Cassidy and Dick as "the new Veronica" - seems like each week we get a chance to see someone who in some way is "this year's Veronica". Which I frankly am finding rather fascinating. I am completely with you on liking that RT continues to portray individual teachers and other adults as smart and capable and well, adult! Some awful, some noble, most somewhere in between - all very real. Loved your twist on the "nothing happens accidentally" quote. Perfect way to head up your list of clues. And by the way, nice listing! You brought up several connections that I hadn't made myself, like the quote about REITs and how that fits with the idea of a conspiracy rather than a single villian. And pointig out that the Logan/Kendall affair as well as the issues between Logan and Duncan are both additional examples of things that are not exactly what they seemed like on the surface. I also hadn't consciously noticed the compare and contrast of Veronica as adult or child. Again - most excellent job, Sue! Take a bow. Thanks, Lola. I'm totally into watching for conspiracy clues. Altho, since I'm responding to this after ep 2.4 aired, I can't say I saw too much of that last week. Still, it's obvious that you can't rehash every theme every week. There's just not time, and it gets way too obvious. I was really struck by how, in the following ep we got no follow-up on the Casblancas fallout at all. If Dick and Cassidy weren't in the opening credits I would have assumed that that was pretty much the end of them.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 31, 2006 20:03:44 GMT -5
It's all about: are you a kid or an adult?
Veronica being interrogated by Lamb: going from snark to 0 in sixty seconds.
did I get really drunk at a biker bar? hee.
how did veronica do the unicorn thing with her laptop?
Duncan/Logan fight!
Love the ipod gym scene. Veronica talking while Kendall still has her headphones on Veronica doesn't want to borrow her boyfriends headphones but she'll borrow a complete strangers? Hee Kendall checking out her ass
My dad, the financial one, says that the real estate fraud plot is full of holes.
Logan with the towel over his head. Hee.
Jump to conclusions much, Veronica?
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Post by Lola m on Jun 4, 2006 20:50:44 GMT -5
Now that I'm watching the re-runs knowing how it all comes out, I keep re-examining all of Beaver, excuse me, Cassidy's actions. I mean, it still really looks like he was just trying to get the goods on step-mom and win dad's approval. But I noticed that he's a lot more commanding than I noticed first time 'round. And then I had an odd thought. It's probably totally off-base, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. Cassidy is the one who pushes Veronica to keep following Kendall. And he's the one who points out the bag switch to her. Was he . . . I mean, is it at all possible that he knew about the real estate scam and wanted dad to get caught? Cassidy turned out to be quite the real estate dealer himself later, so I wouldn't be surprised that he could have learned and understood what dad was doing. Did he want to force dad to have to turn to his sons - to him - for help in a crisis and thus appreciate Cassidy more? Did he want revenge on dad for not paying attention to him and not noticing he was being abused? Did he want dad out of the way so he could continue his own real estate scam? Or am I, as is much more likely, seeing conspiracy where there is none?
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