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Post by Sue on May 15, 2010 9:24:24 GMT -5
I was going to post something about this week's episode of Fringe (yes, I still have a few must-watch shows, uncool as that may be ), but I can't form coherent thoughts about it. Suffice it to say that the episode was pretty damn good. Also, the AU Fringe Division reminded me of what I've seen of Torchwood (which is not much), although their logo was pure Buckaroo Banzai. Waiting to read your comments. I'll go over and post a (very) few of my own -- not few to any lack on the part of Fringe, but due to the fact that I mostly just watch to be briefly entertained and don't really analyze much TV anymore. It's probably in my top 5. But I don't expect to ever find another Buffy. I'm pretty sure that was a one time freak of nature, timing, Joss-brilliance, community, etc. Even if Joss did another show as brilliantly I'm not sure I'd get as (almost literally) enthralled. It's obvious that some people had that with LOST, perhaps others with Alias. Stream of conciousness change of subject: have you seen the new show that looks like a pure and total remake of Alias? and (another hop) Some of the best stuff on TV right now are the crossover-promos on USA for White Collar/Burn Notice/Royal Pains: hilarious. Burn Notice/White Collar Burn Notice/Royal Pains
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on May 15, 2010 11:10:02 GMT -5
I was going to post something about this week's episode of Fringe (yes, I still have a few must-watch shows, uncool as that may be ), but I can't form coherent thoughts about it. Suffice it to say that the episode was pretty damn good. Also, the AU Fringe Division reminded me of what I've seen of Torchwood (which is not much), although their logo was pure Buckaroo Banzai. This is very true. Fringe is about the only show Frankin makes a point of watching any more; even "Parenthood" is something he watches on Hulu if at all. I like a show that makes visible progress on its arc every week, I do, while filling the episodic function so well at the same time. Story upon story. This week I coincidentally watched two shows that I generally don't: Lost, because Anna is an Alison Janney fanatic, and NCIS because, well: Claudia Black (measure my devotion by the fact that I did not watch 24 nor Flash Forward for CKR). Both reinforced my lack of interest in the shows qua shows: Lost's epic pretensions just make me itch, and NCIS has the Stargate problem in spades: great characters, great casting, but lazy writing and storytelling. On that last, and to nobody's surprise, Mercy has been cancelled. Julia, as has Flash Forward; interesting that of the laundry list of shows in this post, only Fringe and NCIS are renewed; the only thing weirder is that Lost and Fringe are both from the seething brain of JJ Abrams.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on May 15, 2010 11:14:45 GMT -5
I was going to post something about this week's episode of Fringe (yes, I still have a few must-watch shows, uncool as that may be ), but I can't form coherent thoughts about it. Suffice it to say that the episode was pretty damn good. Also, the AU Fringe Division reminded me of what I've seen of Torchwood (which is not much), although their logo was pure Buckaroo Banzai. Waiting to read your comments. I'll go over and post a (very) few of my own -- not few to any lack on the part of Fringe, but due to the fact that I mostly just watch to be briefly entertained and don't really analyze much TV anymore. It's probably in my top 5. But I don't expect to ever find another Buffy. I'm pretty sure that was a one time freak of nature, timing, Joss-brilliance, community, etc. Even if Joss did another show as brilliantly I'm not sure I'd get as (almost literally) enthralled. It's obvious that some people had that with LOST, perhaps others with Alias. Stream of conciousness change of subject: have you seen the new show that looks like a pure and total remake of Alias? and (another hop) Some of the best stuff on TV right now are the crossover-promos on USA for White Collar/Burn Notice/Royal Pains: hilarious. >snip for redundancy< Three shows out of the six I'm looking forward to; the other three are Mad Men, Warehouse 13, and Eureka. One I wish CBS would >snip for vulgarism< make up its mind about is Flashpoint; there are now two unaired seasons, and it's been renewed in Canada for a fourth season; CBS says it will air the show but refuses to get pinned down to things like when. Julia, stupid stupid suicidal networks
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Post by Queen E on May 15, 2010 12:08:21 GMT -5
They've also canceled Heroes.
Then again, I actually couldn't make the effort (which would have been one) to watch past the second season while I was England. Which is kind of bad, since I have a thesis chapter on the damn show.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on May 15, 2010 13:28:36 GMT -5
They've also canceled Heroes. Then again, I actually couldn't make the effort (which would have been one) to watch past the second season while I was England. Which is kind of bad, since I have a thesis chapter on the damn show. I stopped watching then, too; it was just painful to deal with the constant retconning. Also, you might like what I posted in the open topics thread, if you've got a few minutes. Julia, I don't, but my water glass is just now empty.
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Post by Sue on May 15, 2010 13:40:32 GMT -5
I was going to post something about this week's episode of Fringe (yes, I still have a few must-watch shows, uncool as that may be ), but I can't form coherent thoughts about it. Suffice it to say that the episode was pretty damn good. Also, the AU Fringe Division reminded me of what I've seen of Torchwood (which is not much), although their logo was pure Buckaroo Banzai. This is very true. Fringe is about the only show Frankin makes a point of watching any more; even "Parenthood" is something he watches on Hulu if at all. I like a show that makes visible progress on its arc every week, I do, while filling the episodic function so well at the same time. Story upon story. This week I coincidentally watched two shows that I generally don't: Lost, because Anna is an Alison Janney fanatic, and NCIS because, well: Claudia Black (measure my devotion by the fact that I did not watch 24 nor Flash Forward for CKR). Both reinforced my lack of interest in the shows qua shows: Lost's epic pretensions just make me itch, and NCIS has the Stargate problem in spades: great characters, great casting, but lazy writing and storytelling. On that last, and to nobody's surprise, Mercy has been cancelled. Julia, as has Flash Forward; interesting that of the laundry list of shows in this post, only Fringe and NCIS are renewed; the only thing weirder is that Lost and Fringe are both from the seething brain of JJ Abrams. First, (which is a reply to your post following this one. Yes, I think overall I watch more USA shows than any other network. As for the underlined. I agree somewhat re Lost -- maybe they bit off just a bit more than was necessary, but at least they do it far, FAR (apologies to Sara) better than Flashforward with better characters and acting. and (apologies for my personal hubris her--it is possibly unjustified) re NCIS --- I think it is so very high in the ratings because of the great characters, great casting, ability to allow the characters to grow and change at least a little bit as the seasons progress, and perhaps even also due to the undemanding nature of the storytelling. For one, it's extremely serial in nature but also I think the broad base of TV viewership is made of many (not all) people who don't really want to be that challenged when watching their shows. (Honestly, several of the episodes on L&O this season were so convoluted that I needed a flowchart to see how the suspect was related to the original crime.) Well, was interrupted about 4 times while writing this over an hour time span so it's probably lost any semblance of coherence.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on May 15, 2010 14:28:11 GMT -5
This is very true. Fringe is about the only show Frankin makes a point of watching any more; even "Parenthood" is something he watches on Hulu if at all. I like a show that makes visible progress on its arc every week, I do, while filling the episodic function so well at the same time. Story upon story. This week I coincidentally watched two shows that I generally don't: Lost, because Anna is an Alison Janney fanatic, and NCIS because, well: Claudia Black (measure my devotion by the fact that I did not watch 24 nor Flash Forward for CKR). Both reinforced my lack of interest in the shows qua shows: Lost's epic pretensions just make me itch, and NCIS has the Stargate problem in spades: great characters, great casting, but lazy writing and storytelling. On that last, and to nobody's surprise, Mercy has been cancelled. Julia, as has Flash Forward; interesting that of the laundry list of shows in this post, only Fringe and NCIS are renewed; the only thing weirder is that Lost and Fringe are both from the seething brain of JJ Abrams. First, (which is a reply to your post following this one. Yes, I think overall I watch more USA shows than any other network. As for the underlined. I agree somewhat re Lost -- maybe they bit off just a bit more than was necessary, but at least they do it far, FAR (apologies to Sara) better than Flashforward with better characters and acting. and (apologies for my personal hubris her--it is possibly unjustified) re NCIS --- I think it is so very high in the ratings because of the great characters, great casting, ability to allow the characters to grow and change at least a little bit as the seasons progress, and perhaps even also due to the undemanding nature of the storytelling. For one, it's extremely serial in nature but also I think the broad base of TV viewership is made of many (not all) people who don't really want to be that challenged when watching their shows. (Honestly, several of the episodes on L&O this season were so convoluted that I needed a flowchart to see how the suspect was related to the original crime.) Well, was interrupted about 4 times while writing this over an hour time span so it's probably lost any semblance of coherence. I'm all for undemanding story-telling (viz Mercy) but I like how dense Fringe is, on the episodic story level. NCIS just felt thin, and the dialogue way too expository for my tastes. But the comparison with the Stargate franchise was intentional: that's very much the weaknesses of that going-on-sixteen-seasons-and-two-miniseries/movies empire, and yet it endures. I watched and liked the first season, and would probably have kept watching except for the heavy lifting involved (quite literally; my VCR died and to use the other one, since there were already two shows on opposite NCIS that we were watching, would have meant taking the media center apart to get to the power cord). Julia, resting again, sans water, before I launch out the door.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 15, 2010 16:13:39 GMT -5
So ever since I broke my arm however many years ago, there have been times when I lean on that elbow on the table or whatever, that I get this completely irrational thought in my head that if I lean too hard on it that it might break again. It's never been enough to really interfere with my life in any way and happens a lot more rarely now than right after my arm healed. But for some reason it's been particularly recurrent yesterday and today. I suspect that it has something to do with being stressed and sleep deprived.
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Post by SpringSummers on May 15, 2010 17:08:29 GMT -5
So ever since I broke my arm however many years ago, there have been times when I lean on that elbow on the table or whatever, that I get this completely irrational thought in my head that if I lean too hard on it that it might break again. It's never been enough to really interfere with my life in any way and happens a lot more rarely now than right after my arm healed. But for some reason it's been particularly recurrent yesterday and today. I suspect that it has something to do with being stressed and sleep deprived. Good theory! I'm guessing it will settle down again once you are less stressed and back into a routine.
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Post by Lola m on May 15, 2010 20:38:48 GMT -5
Exciting home stretch run in the Preakness today. Super Saver faded, as I had kind of expected, really, so no chance of a Triple Crown winner this year. (Again, I was not expecting one, so no skin off my nose. Well, also no bets on the race this year, so no skin off my nose no matter what. ;D ) Lookin at Lucky ran a good race today, nice push in the final turn.
Ah, these races always get me all nostalgic . . . nothing will ever be as exciting as watching Secretariat run. The Derby, where he ran each each quarter faster than the one before - still accelerating in the final quarter. STILL accelerating, people! That is . . . that is almost inconceivable! If I recall correctly, I think his record on that race still stands. And the race I can still see when I close my eyes - the Belmont. Damn. DAMN! Coming down the backstretch and there were no other horses in sight. Just breathtaking that was. And I know that record still stands - fastest time of that length on dirt ever. EVER!! I had a poster of that backstretch shot when I was a teen - yes I was that dorky and fannish. ;D
Alrighty, time to watch Dr Who! Yay!
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Post by Lola m on May 15, 2010 20:43:42 GMT -5
So ever since I broke my arm however many years ago, there have been times when I lean on that elbow on the table or whatever, that I get this completely irrational thought in my head that if I lean too hard on it that it might break again. It's never been enough to really interfere with my life in any way and happens a lot more rarely now than right after my arm healed. But for some reason it's been particularly recurrent yesterday and today. I suspect that it has something to do with being stressed and sleep deprived. I would say that your suspicion is likely right.
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Post by Lola m on May 15, 2010 20:49:51 GMT -5
Waiting to read your comments. I'll go over and post a (very) few of my own -- not few to any lack on the part of Fringe, but due to the fact that I mostly just watch to be briefly entertained and don't really analyze much TV anymore. It's probably in my top 5. But I don't expect to ever find another Buffy. I'm pretty sure that was a one time freak of nature, timing, Joss-brilliance, community, etc. Even if Joss did another show as brilliantly I'm not sure I'd get as (almost literally) enthralled. It's obvious that some people had that with LOST, perhaps others with Alias. Stream of conciousness change of subject: have you seen the new show that looks like a pure and total remake of Alias? and (another hop) Some of the best stuff on TV right now are the crossover-promos on USA for White Collar/Burn Notice/Royal Pains: hilarious. >snip for redundancy< Three shows out of the six I'm looking forward to; the other three are Mad Men, Warehouse 13, and Eureka. One I wish CBS would >snip for vulgarism< make up its mind about is Flashpoint; there are now two unaired seasons, and it's been renewed in Canada for a fourth season; CBS says it will air the show but refuses to get pinned down to things like when. Julia, stupid stupid suicidal networks White Collar, Burn Notice, Mad Men, Eureka - indeed! (And Leverage, of course, but that's on the opposite schedule of White Collar and Burn Notice. ;D ) And yeah, what's the deal with Flashpoint, eh? Sooooooo wanting Mad Men back. And the Eureka mini-marathons on Sciffy always make me think it will be back soon and then it turns out, not so much.
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Post by Lola m on May 15, 2010 20:57:18 GMT -5
Saying that others "suited better" doesn't mean you're bad or lacking, just that you weren't a good fit for that job and probably wouldn't have been happy there. That's a very good point. Thanks, Anne. Who knows? Maybe I'm not a California kind of girl (the job was in Los Angeles). I mean, I'd have to drive or something, and I LOATHE driving. Loathing driving does not seem to suit the L.A. scene, indeed.
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Post by Lola m on May 15, 2010 21:04:36 GMT -5
Huh. NBC has canceled Law & Order, Mercy, Trauma and Heroes. It would be great if these were being replaced by must-see TV, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're all replaced by low quality reality crap. Whoa! Law and Order? I would have thought that was the eternal show. Or is it still going to be new on Bravo and what not, just not NBC maybe? And yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath for amazing new shows.
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Post by Queen E on May 15, 2010 21:36:07 GMT -5
Well, I'm digging Ashes to Ashes, but that only has one episode left... *sigh*
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