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Post by WinterDreamer on Nov 21, 2003 15:03:45 GMT -5
I was starting to panic! Couldn't post, board said everybody was offline and a list of people who were supposed to be on line...aaaaakkkk...thanks Dave. Anyway - Spring said I always thought the story of William's father went like this... William's father was a raikish, rouge, name Rodger (points for alliteration). He was quite the charmer and womanizer. Anne was a mousy, plain woman but she had a good heart and her Daddy had left her a LOT of money. So Rodger turned the charm on poor Anne and she fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. Marriage certainly didn't put a damper on Rodger's activities though, if anything, with the new money, he enjoyed himself a little more. He kept Anne happy, so long as she got laid once in while, she didn't question him. Rodger figured that after coming home from the local tavern, that after 2am, even she looked good. When he found out that Anne was knocked-up, that was just more of a prison than he could take. He took off for America because he had heard it was a land of opportunity. He went out one night for smokes and just never went home. Poor Anne was devastated. Little William comes into her life and becomes the companion Rodger wasn't. Fortunately for Anne, Rodger left her a little money so she could live comfortably. Fortunately for William, he inherited his father's handsome looks, fabulous body, and athletic prowess. William grows up without a male figure in his life and coddled by Mum. I think that about covers it. What you said.
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Post by raenstorm on Nov 21, 2003 15:03:46 GMT -5
I am Soooo with you on this point! DRATS! I had a whole long reply – and lost it when the Part locked!!! grrrrr!!! I’ll try to reconstruct (but doing so is one of my all-time hated activities...sooo frustrating! rasnfrassindrasn Moloch).... Thanks for your thoughtful Post Rae, which answered the question I posed a while ago. So, if the reason for abstaining from pre-marital sex is to preserve the sanctity of marriage, doesn’t that mean that BOTH people who indulge in sex for pleasure AND people who indulge in sex for love are equally at “fault” – i.e. they are both equally degrading the sanctity of marriage? And now that I think of it (always a cause for concern), if the reason is to “abstain from premarital sex” is to “preserve the sanctity of marriage,” because you sex should only occur within marriage, isn’t that a bit of circular reasoning? i.e. doesn’t it beg the question of why you should only have sex within marriage? I mean it isn’t sex that makes marriage a special bond – isn’t it, rather, love, devotion, caring, kindness, and respect that make marriage a special bond? Sex is clearly not the essential, or even an essential, ingredient of marriage. People who are physically unable to have sex, still get married. Their marriage isn’t any less a marriage than others, right? (y’know, I’m feeling more and more comfortable with the title of “Demon’s Advocate” here!) Oh, definitely, it is a bit circular when it comes to the way we think. However, the C. church views sex differently than us. I have no problem with premarital sex. As long the people involved are consenting adults, I say more power to ya. To the church, sex is a way to show your love, faith, devotion to each other. As such, it should only be happening between two people who are in a committed, sacred relationship (marriage). So, by that logic, you'd have to wait until you were in that relationship to be engaged in it (sex). Am I making sense? I gotta go pick up the kid from pre-school so I am afraid my response isn't thought out and articulated as well as it could be... (And, for those paying attn., I haven't had a kid while on vacation.-- Thank God! -- It's my sister's kid.)
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Post by Sandy - lparish on Nov 21, 2003 15:06:10 GMT -5
Alliteration: +15 pts for great effort Imagination: +90 pts, especially for the trip to America Realism: -25 for the idea that Rodger would leave a dime he could spend on himself to his wife and infant son. Sex & violence: +15 for mentioning the handsome looks, fabulous body and athletic prowess. TOTAL SCORE: 95 The only reason there was any left is because...because..oh, I know...because there was so much money. He spent most of it and just enough was left for Anne and William to live like the genteel poor. And...Rodger the dodger left at night and all the banks were closed.
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Post by jdarksun on Nov 21, 2003 15:10:01 GMT -5
I pronounce them both the same way, but I have no idea whether that's correct or not. I usually hit dictionary.com if I want the "correct" version, but I find it's much more fun to use my own versions in a number of cases I pronounce it "day-mon" (instead of "dee-mon"), mostly gathered from the influence of other linux geeks, ST: DS9, and my fascination with 'ae'. Sort of a curious way for me to de-lurk, but I thought I'd just chime in after reading most of what was said. Now if only I could think of something as eloquent and insightful as the rest of you...
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Post by Sandy - lparish on Nov 21, 2003 15:11:56 GMT -5
Here's my take on Spike's father .... Spike's father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. His mother was a 15 year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. Spike's father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy - the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Spike's childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, they'd make meat helmets. When Spike was insolent, he was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really. Of course, if all this were true, then Oz would be Spike's son, created by his minions using his DNA and a test tube. And Spike would be spending most of his time on BtVS and AtS just trying to get some frickin' sharks with lazer beams on their heads, but having to settle for mutated, ill-tempered sea bass. Actually, in many ways, Spike has had to settle for the sea bass when he really wanted a shark with a lazer beam. As you said...only the insane...
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Post by Micha on Nov 21, 2003 15:14:23 GMT -5
I usually hit dictionary.com if I want the "correct" version, but I find it's much more fun to use my own versions in a number of cases I pronounce it "day-mon" (instead of "dee-mon"), mostly gathered from the influence of other linux geeks, ST: DS9, and my fascination with 'ae'. Sort of a curious way for me to de-lurk, but I thought I'd just chime in after reading most of what was said. Now if only I could think of something as eloquent and insightful as the rest of you... Woohoo! The Big Numero Uno! Now you've done it. We've gotcha now! MWAHAHAHAHAHA, and the madness continues to spread! (oh, and by the way, welcome ;D) Micha
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Post by Nan-S'cubie Mascot on Nov 21, 2003 15:14:28 GMT -5
My review for Destiny is done and off to Vlad. I have Lee H's review and am reformatting it. It should be off in half an hour or so.
Whew!
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Post by Micha on Nov 21, 2003 15:23:46 GMT -5
Woohoo! The Big Numero Uno! Now you've done it. We've gotcha now! MWAHAHAHAHAHA, and the madness continues to spread! (oh, and by the way, welcome ;D) Micha Okay, quoting myself ('cause I'm that cool eh Lee?) buy were'd my Founder designation go? I'm guessing that my Master name is just too long and as such the Founder foundered. ( Woohoo, points for creative use of homonyms!) Here ya go, (and my dorkiness continues unabated) just looked it up to make sure I had the spelling right. Here the vocabulary lesson of the day: Concise Oxford English Dictionary, Tenth Edition (revised)The words founder and flounder are often confused. Founder means, in its general and extended use, 'fail or come to nothing', while flounder means 'struggle; be in a state of confusion'. Really useful information is often stumbled upon. (Of course, I used founder in the sense '(of a plan or undertaking) fail.' or '(of a ship) fill with water and sink.')
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Post by Rachael on Nov 21, 2003 15:31:23 GMT -5
2) It's really nice to have such a well thought out and articulate male perspective on this board--which sometimes seems to be a bit "estrogen heavy." (No offense to Dave, Rob, John, etc. who also hold up your end of the gender divide ably, but Len does seem to be taking his Devil's Advocate role very seriously!) . Ahem. . .by this, are you implying that the masculine perspective equates with that of the Devil?
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Post by jdarksun on Nov 21, 2003 15:31:52 GMT -5
My review for Destiny is done and off to Vlad. I have Lee H's review and am reformatting it. It should be off in half an hour or so. Whew! <- is giddy. I hope you don't mind, Nan, but I've been spreading your words of wisdom (and all the other goodness that is S3) to the group I watch Buffy/Angel with. Lineage from last week brought a bright spot to what was otherwise a very bad, very late night at work. Thanks for the welcome, Micha ...and here I thought flounder was a fish... ;D
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Post by Micha on Nov 21, 2003 15:34:03 GMT -5
Here ya go, (and my dorkiness continues unabated) just looked it up to make sure I had the spelling right. Here the vocabulary lesson of the day: Okay, quoting myself yet again ('cause I'm really that cool eh Lee?) It seems my dorkiness has scared everyone off. I think William and I would have gotten along smashingly. Wel...l, if I were born in the 19th century, and well..., if I were a Brit living in London at the time... and well, if I were male. Because I don't thing Willy did very well talking with the ladies, what with the tongue tied and all. Yep, if I were a British male born in the 19th century living in London I would have gotten along smashingly with William the Bloody. Yup. For sure. Micha
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Post by karalee on Nov 21, 2003 15:35:12 GMT -5
Here's my take on Spike's father .... Spike's father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. His mother was a 15 year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. Spike's father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims, like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy - the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Spike's childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, they'd make meat helmets. When Spike was insolent, he was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really. Of course, if all this were true, then Oz would be Spike's son, created by his minions using his DNA and a test tube. And Spike would be spending most of his time on BtVS and AtS just trying to get some frickin' sharks with lazer beams on their heads, but having to settle for mutated, ill-tempered sea bass. Actually, in many ways, Spike has had to settle for the sea bass when he really wanted a shark with a lazer beam. Oh Dave, this reminded me of something I was going to comment on the other night. When Angelus tells William they are going to be good friends and they start laughing, it immediately reminded me of Dr. Evil and his minions laughing at his plan to cover the earth in liquid hot magma. It just struck me funny.
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Post by Micha on Nov 21, 2003 15:37:30 GMT -5
Okay, quoting myself yet again ('cause I'm really that cool eh Lee?) It seems my dorkiness has scared everyone off. I think William and I would have gotten along smashingly. Wel...l, if I were born in the 19th century, and well..., if I were a Brit living in London at the time... and well, if I were male. Because I don't thing Willy did very well talking with the ladies, what with the tongue tied and all. Yep, if I were a British male born in the 19th century living in London I would have gotten along smashingly with William the Bloody. Yup. For sure. Micha And I'm quoting... well you get the idea. It seems that while I was typing up the previous the board came back to life. So please, disregard all references to my being a multicentenarian british male. You're collective selective amnesia is much appreciated. (read ah-pre-see-ated.) Micha
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Post by Micha on Nov 21, 2003 15:40:14 GMT -5
<- is giddy. I hope you don't mind, Nan, but I've been spreading your words of wisdom (and all the other goodness that is S3) to the group I watch Buffy/Angel with. Lineage from last week brought a bright spot to what was otherwise a very bad, very late night at work. Thanks for the welcome, Micha ...and here I thought flounder was a fish... ;D And that makes two........two posts Mwahahahaha *lightnight flashes and thunder claps* See, this is how you pad your post numbers in hopes of achieving that not so elusive two hundred post count number to receive your most coveted S'cubie name. You're a quick study I can tell. Micha
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Post by Len on Nov 21, 2003 15:46:08 GMT -5
I usually hit dictionary.com if I want the "correct" version, but I find it's much more fun to use my own versions in a number of cases I pronounce it "day-mon" (instead of "dee-mon"), mostly gathered from the influence of other linux geeks, ST: DS9, and my fascination with 'ae'. Sort of a curious way for me to de-lurk, but I thought I'd just chime in after reading most of what was said. Now if only I could think of something as eloquent and insightful as the rest of you... welcome JDS! Glad to see you come out into the sunlight (always a bit of a trick for an ensouled vamp
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