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Post by Lola m on Feb 14, 2007 22:26:59 GMT -5
So - nothing nefarious, just the undertow. Boy. Charlie really keeps trying to claim territory that isn't his to claim, don't he? "I don't buy this pre-cognitive insanity rubbish." Heh. Charlie is getting quite a few good lines tonight. Get him drunk? That's your plan?! "Thank you for helping Claire not drown." How . . . grudging can you get in a thank you? Heee! But they are cute drunks. Girls with one leg and a heart of gold. Ooooh! Fight, fight! I think coward was the wrong word to use. Flashback time. Cool camera shot - to make it look like he's dead. Ooooh, not just flashback. He actually . . . flashed back when the big boom happened. He went back in time. So, I think it was Rachael who suggested an "unstuck in time" thing. Whoever it is, I think they were right.
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Post by Karen on Feb 14, 2007 22:27:07 GMT -5
Arrrrrrrrgh! Man, I love this show. ;D
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Post by Matthew on Feb 14, 2007 22:27:33 GMT -5
"Not the end of the world" Beep, beep, beep... (Someone's been watching "Life on Mars" Hume is his last name. I forgot that. When is Kant gonna show up? So this is a flashback AND a fantasy-life in his head at the same time? Did he EVER get on with Widmore? Flashback/fantasy. IS this how things went, or how they SHOULD have gone? McCutcheon whisky. So that's why the laugh. Pouring into a single glass with two out. Insult. "This swallow is worth more than you could make in a month" Bastard. Okay, so this is history as it happened mixed in with his recent memories: Charlie singing "Wonderwall" funny with the way Charlie and his brother are reminiscent of the Gallagher brothers. Charlie's last name is "Hieronymous"? WTF? Wasn't his name Pace or something like that? Eh. This is an hallucination, a metaphor. A mental do-over. It's not a reliable narrator, Matthew.
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Post by Matthew on Feb 14, 2007 22:29:47 GMT -5
So - nothing nefarious, just the undertow. Boy. Charlie really keeps trying to claim territory that isn't his to claim, don't he? "I don't buy this pre-cognitive insanity rubbish." Heh. Charlie is getting quite a few good lines tonight. Get him drunk? That's your plan?! "Thank you for helping Claire not drown." How . . . grudging can you get in a thank you? Heee! But they are cute drunks. Girls with one leg and a heart of gold. Ooooh! Fight, fight! I think coward was the wrong word to use. Flashback time. Cool camera shot - to make it look like he's dead. Ooooh, not just flashback. He actually . . . flashed back when the big boom happened. He went back in time. So, I think it was Rachael who suggested an "unstuck in time" thing. Whoever it is, I think they were right. *nods* yeah, it is very "Billy Pilgrim-ish": but the other stuff going on.. hell, how DOES one act when unstuck in time? Bouncing back and forth, hither and thither, like a temporal bungee jumper...
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Post by Onjel on Feb 14, 2007 22:30:36 GMT -5
Deleted due to being in the wrong place and sounding totally silly.
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Post by Karen on Feb 14, 2007 22:33:02 GMT -5
Momma Cass!
I've got goosebumps.
I can buy the time warpy thing. It's what we saw in the first episodes with the radio transmission.
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Post by Karen on Feb 14, 2007 22:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by Matthew on Feb 14, 2007 22:39:08 GMT -5
Dammit. I was off on a wrong track. much akin to Donnie Darko, then.. 'cept he's not on a pinched-off loop... "Make your own kind of music" has a special meaning for him... (that WAS what was on the juke, no?) Divergent outcomes.. Butterfly effect? Or hallucination? Dammit. Keeping me all uncertain. Dammit, why isn't Abrams doing the American "Life on Mars" series? HE could keep the ambiguity! Nice shading of the truth there, Des. "Your father was lovely" Yes it is something to celebrate. When someone who is that much a bastard DOESN'T take a shine to you, it's a good thing. See? Pen thinks so, too. Please let her not be a sarcastic wench. Oh, that's pretty!!! What is it? "You don't buy the ring, Desmond" so he's pretty much in his head. So this is why he was running around screaming in delight afterwards. "Desmond David Hume" So he needs to frack his life up so he's in a position to turn the failsafe key and wind up in his own head, where he winds up following the same path that leads him to the island, where he turns the key, winds up in his own head, and follows the same course of actions that lead him back to the island.... AAAAAA!!
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Post by Lola m on Feb 14, 2007 22:43:38 GMT -5
Awwwww. Desmond and Penelope are soooo cute. So, he's having, like, flashforwards during his flashback? He's remembering the future in flashes. Cool. Came to ask for your daughter's hand in marriage. Awwww. Old fashioned, but sweet in it's own way. And of course dad is a total and complete asshole. This swallow is worth more than you could make in a month. (So, one's worth is only seen in monetary terms.) You'll never be a "great man". (So, you have to be "great" or your worthless. And "great" is based solely on what dad values.) Not worthy of the whiskey or the daughter. (So, basically you're equating your daughter with an expensive bottle of booze. Just another possession.) "We are on an island, mate. This is England. And this is why we don't do drugs." ;D Funny. He really did see Charlie in the past - the first time? So it's an instance of the lost-aways running into each other before they reached the island? And he only sees the coincidence now, in the flashback of the flashback? Interesting. And twisty. And he comes completely unhinged. Well, I guess I would too.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 14, 2007 22:44:27 GMT -5
No way. An hallucination born of a head injury? No way. That would be akin to Pamela Ewing's season-long dream with Bobby dead and her life being completely changed, only to find out Bobby was in the shower the whole season when he stepped out the first episode of the following year. Oh you know Lost would be much sicker and more warped than even that.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 14, 2007 22:45:06 GMT -5
Penelope's father? A total dick. I have my angry eyebrows on. I add my angry growly noises to your angry eyebrows. Total dick.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 14, 2007 22:45:37 GMT -5
Arrrrrrrrgh! Man, I love this show. ;D **nods** So far, they've really re-hooked me. ;D
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Post by Onjel on Feb 14, 2007 22:46:45 GMT -5
No way. An hallucination born of a head injury? No way. That would be akin to Pamela Ewing's season-long dream with Bobby dead and her life being completely changed, only to find out Bobby was in the shower the whole season when he stepped out the first episode of the following year. Oh you know Lost would be much sicker and more warped than even that. I would hope so.
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Post by Onjel on Feb 14, 2007 22:47:55 GMT -5
Ah. He really does take the path Fionnula Flannigan told him he was going to take. The Universe has a way of course correcting. So it does.
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Post by Matthew on Feb 14, 2007 22:48:46 GMT -5
She's the ghost of Christmas Past? In her off time?
"Bold fashion choice worth noting" TF?
His subconscious has a pretty cloak-broach on.
No, ODESsyeus, you aren't.
Red shoes, blood: death.
Death's gonna getcha: so why is she so worried about his NOT following the path, if it's so deterministic?
Things will still wind up leading him back to the island. We know he winds up in jail here, before too long. Why was he incarcerated?
He's gonna join the Royal Scots regiment? Is this what he did in his original timeline? He was in a military prison?
Marina scene... back to water and the voyage... his destiny?
Oh, Desmond.. stop worrying about your testicles.. He doesn't even like red? pththth.
GOOD Penelope. Put it back on him. OH, and there's the trigger-word.
He's playing the "Destiny" card. I wonder if he did that the first time.
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