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Post by Sara on Apr 10, 2007 9:31:07 GMT -5
As I understand it, Juliet will be the focus of this episode's flashbacks—most likely a result of her and Sayid sitting down for a nice long chat. And as a special bonus, Doc Jensen's thoughts on tonight's ep: What can I say? How about this: A couple years from now, when the series is done, I'm certain there will be a DVD product that will collect the 20 or so episodes that represent the Definitive Lost Saga, and this one will be on it. He adds more about the episode's specifics, but it definitely moves into spoiler territory. However, I can say that if Jensen's assessment is accurate, those of you hungering for some answers about the Others may very well come away from this episode with a full belly.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2007 21:06:06 GMT -5
Clearing of the Darned in the distance?
Happy little family hiking back to the beach.
And now we have a reckoning coming up.. Woohoo!
"Didn't ask any questions" which, if I can say, must have been driving him truly buggy..
Give Juliet the Burning Stare, Sayid!!!
"Making lists; checking them twice"
And "who are you?" is as good a point for a JulietBack as any...
EEEEEK!!!!
</instinctive Ethan response>
"Did we say 'months'? We meant 'years'..."
"Before you give birth" if you happen to be giving birth to a post-mature elephant..
"If.... you'd kill me" does not inspire confidence, Juliet. Haven't you read Dale Carnagie?....
Jack flexing his leadership muscles: let's see how well Sayid reacts to Jack's Aegis..
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Post by Sara on Apr 11, 2007 21:09:20 GMT -5
Wonder if Jack knows something about Juliet we don't...
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Post by Sara on Apr 11, 2007 21:11:12 GMT -5
Whoa. She just came right out and told Jack she handcuffed Kate to her and lied about it. And Jack didn't bat an eyelash.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 11, 2007 21:13:12 GMT -5
Jack just did what they wanted, kept his head down and didn't ask questions, huh? Hmmmmmmmmm. Sayid wants to know everything. Starting with who the heck is Juliette. So, flashback to her joining up with our merry band of wacky scientists. Security camera isn't that out of line for a research facility. On the other hand, not even letting you drive in and making anyone you're with stay behind, apparently in some kind of permanent way (based on the "who knows if we'll ever see each other again / make us proud" goodbye scene) seems like overkill. And now we get the "if I told you everything I know, you'd kill me" "what do you think I'll do if you don't" moment. (Which, sidebar, why does she think she'll be killed? Is what she's got to confess so extremely icky that anyone would kill her? Is it just because then she has no other value once she's spilled all the beans? Just 'cuz she thinks they're that vengeful? ) She's under my protection! Ah, alpha!Jack. Yeah. Like that's gonna fly with the whole group, much less Sayid.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2007 21:18:13 GMT -5
Turniphead all by himself: where's Claire? Oh, right there, just with narcolepsy... Aw! Charlie being all sweet and concerned and stuff!!!! And Claire's got dengue fever or sleeping sickness or something dramatic like that. SHE dragged Kate to the middle of the jungle? What, was she looking for some private time with her? This is a new twist on last week... So she got left behind because she was off playing reindeer games with Kate? Okay, so the medical checkup for the job? "You're gonna want to be asleep for the trip" What, is she Jaunting? (Stephen King is gonna giggle.) Gotta admit, it would save tons of time, and would explain The Man from Tallahassee... These people have mastered the art of the reverse sell. So... one night from Portland, the next morning on Craphole Island. she Jaunted. the submarine is a prop. Teleportation. Well, the sub obviously works around the island, but it's not the way they get on and off the island. Leader Sawyer is hewing to Hugo's words, even if he's still harassing him. And the prodigals return. With someone who Sawyer will feel is a mengleette. Homecoming! Joyous! he wants to be a part! Manlove!!!!! Oh, come on, Jack, Sawyer, hug like you mean it. Aw. Katwer huggles. And there's the fly in the ointment.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2007 21:19:23 GMT -5
Whoa. She just came right out and told Jack she handcuffed Kate to her and lied about it. And Jack didn't bat an eyelash. I think it's quite possible that Jack's gast has been flabbered past eyelash-batting. Mine would be.
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Post by jeff on Apr 11, 2007 21:21:01 GMT -5
probably one of the most tender Sawyer moments I have seen on the show.
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Post by Sara on Apr 11, 2007 21:23:39 GMT -5
Ethan. Goodwin!
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Post by jeff on Apr 11, 2007 21:26:50 GMT -5
is what Ben giving Juliett about her sister's cancer real? Or is it just a set up to keep her on the Island.
Interesting.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2007 21:29:22 GMT -5
"Burried him over there" So Hurley was dispatched, or did he go over there to sit with her of his own accord?
Ethan still creeps me out. especially in light of the "Nothing here stays burried for long"
Benry doesn't give his ratty arse about your sister, or your wants on going home..
"Sister won't be giving birth" Cancer's back? GAH!!!
From their signals geek. "You still can" "stay here and help me with our problem" "I will cure your sister's cancer"
and after that hubris(no one here has cancer), Benry gets cancer himself.
Is Claire coming down with the Sickness Rousseau mentioned?
"Said who?"
"Ben" yeah, I don't think that Ben is that much of a reliable source.
Great. Now Claire's head's exploding. Hey, Juliet? Do you get Explosive Face Syndrome at the Village of the Darned often?
Apparently so.
"I did it to her" Great. She was the demonic obstetrician working in the shadows With Ethan.
This is certainly stretching my "Yay, Juliet" frame a bit.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 11, 2007 21:32:48 GMT -5
Ah, sweet island domestic scenes. But wait! Trouble in paradise? Is Claire sick with the mysterious Island ick? Charlie (of course) uses this as an opportunity to grab the baby. Heh! I like Juliette's honest estimate of why she's facing hostility from Sayid and Kate. "How much time do you think they need?" She made a six month commitment to a secret company that no one knows about, signed papers that mean she talks to no one, and is going to an undisclosed "special" location. The drugs in the orange juice just briefly make her pause and then, not so much. Um. Cult, much? And she's just being all "drink the kool-aid"? And their doing that patented Other apparently honest and straightforward (although agressive and confrontational) thing. Which is just really mind games starting already. Aaaaand she wakes up all strapped down in a sub. Intersting how you climb up a hatch - the sub hatch - to get to the island. Not down the rabbit hole, but up. So, that means the island is the anti-wonderland? Benjamin Linus? Awwwww! Now we get the hearwarming reunion!! Yes - Sawyer sees his woobie-darling Jack Kate. His heart swells, he gets all gooey inside, he jumps Jack's bones goes into a clinch with Kate. Of course. He and Jack do the straight-boy one armed hug and thump thing. Can you say "repressed"? Oh, yeah. Sawyer is just as not happy to see Juliette as Sayid was.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2007 21:39:09 GMT -5
Sawyer and Sayid agreeing and all intimate. Freaky.
"Designed to keep her alive in the late stages of her pregnancy"
this doesn't bode well for Sun.
"She was our control case" is not the best way to phrase it, but I imagine being around Ben for a while kinda stunts ones' social graces.
"He improvised" Now that is a spooky idea.
"Need the serum" So gonna send an escort along with her, Jack? send Sayid? 'cause he's gonna go on his own.
Pretty back.
And yes, this freaks my crap out hardcore.
and we have the discovery of Benry's cancer!! and his hubris!!!
Wow, it's so tiny and intimate there.
Okay, so this is right before the crash: he's reading Carrie. Which matches with everything else everyone has said. Which is just a way to go "yay, continuity!"
He looks truly non-plussed at her rage. And sorta scared. Keeps control, though.
I don't trust his word. I don't think Juliet does, either.
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Post by Karen on Apr 11, 2007 21:42:53 GMT -5
I love Lost, I really do.
But it's extremely frustrating to not be able to tell who is lying and who isn't.
Is it only me who thinks that Juliet's flashback took place in the 60's?
ETA: Well, I guess that 2004 newspaper with Juliet's sister in the video shoots that theory.
Also - Ben might have been telling Juliet the truth, but he's still an ass.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2007 21:51:51 GMT -5
So what is that on the tree? reminds me of the Turacean's tattoo from Heavy Metal. Don't try trumping them with the moral high ground stuff... Then again, well, that part kinda worked... she has them saying "moo". Note to Self: Don't F*** with the fertility doctor. AND the scene from the begining of the season!!!!!! Plane crashing to "Downtown"!!!!! AWESOME!! Something he needs to show her. What? LOVE the "We're approaching the house, don't shoot us..." Acadia Park? Where is that? Ah. Miami. And Fachel is alive, has hair, and a kid. So he proves to her that his word is good. huh. At least on things he chooses to prove it on.. Brought her back to the fold. "Get back here as soon as you can" from Miami? Teleportation!!!! There are stepping disks between thither and hither!!! Don't try Charlie on concatenative logic, his little driveshaft will spin apart.... Jack's telling her "if your magic doesn't work, the villagers will tear you to bits..
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